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I got a royal gramma for my newly cycled tank yesterday from Petco and when I got home today it was dead. Could it be velvet or ich? Ammonia and nitrite are at 0 and he was swimming around just fine when I put him in the tank

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Sorry to hear about you losing this fish. Are there any other fish in the tank? Appears the royal is missing part of the tail.
 
I got 1 margarita snail with the gramma and he’s still alive eating algae
Was part of the tail missing at Petco? My local Petco loses fish all the time, the store employees often tell me if they cannot sell the fish in less than a week it likely will die. But that may not be all the Petco’s
Also what is your salinity levels, i would probably take it back to Petco they have a 3 day guarantee
 
I got a royal gramma for my newly cycled tank yesterday from Petco and when I got home today it was dead. Could it be velvet or ich? Ammonia and nitrite are at 0 and he was swimming around just fine when I put him in the tank

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Check your ammonia and nitrate level with a reliable test kit. Mouth open is an indicator of low oxygen and aggression with tail suggest aggression from store or tank mate. I would seek other recouces for fish in lieu of Petco
 
Was part of the tail missing at Petco? My local Petco loses fish all the time, the store employees often tell me if they cannot sell the fish in less than a week it likely will die. But that may not be all the Petco’s
Also what is your salinity levels, i would probably take it back to Petco they have a 3 day guarantee
Salinity is 1.025 I didn’t get a good look at the store but I have a picture of when he was alive. Definitely going to hopefully get a refund tomorrow
 

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Check your ammonia and nitrate level with a reliable test kit. Mouth open is an indicator of low oxygen and aggression with tail suggest aggression from store or tank mate. I would seek other recouces for fish in lieu of Petco
The only test kit I have is API. I have a power head going in the tank with a good filter so I’m guessing oxygen was fine
 

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Salinity is 1.025 I didn’t get a good look at the store but I have a picture of when he was alive. Definitely going to hopefully get a refund tomorrow
part of tail was missing when you bought, could have been aggression at the store, could have been stressed.
 
The only test kit I have is API. I have a power head going in the tank with a good filter so I’m guessing oxygen was fine
This is one of the most unreliable kits often producing false test results. I suggest taking a water sample to a store that does NOT use Api kits and have them test your ammonia and nitrates and compare readings- then you'll know where your levels truly are at
 
This is one of the most unreliable kits often producing false test results. I suggest taking a water sample to a store that does NOT use Api kits and have them test your ammonia and nitrates and compare readings- then you'll know where your levels truly are at
What test kit do you recommend?
 
The only test kit I have is API. I have a power head going in the tank with a good filter so I’m guessing oxygen was fine
Power head does not offer the needed oxygen but rather water flow. Suggested is an air stone.
What filter are you using?
If its a hang on back filter, likely insufficient as its a mechanical unit which polishes the water and you want to have mechanical , biological and chemical to manage proper water quality. The aquaclear will polish water and trap particles via the cartridge.
Chemical is what traps and breaks down chemical compounds such as feces and uneaten food often accomplished with use of carbon and GFO as examples
Biological is what utilizes the natural process of biological filtration such as use of ceramic nuggets, bio blocks, and microscopic bacteria surfaces as examples. Best it to add or use a hang on refugium such as Reef octopus or AquaMaxx unit and even add a hang on skimmer such as ice cap K1- or K2 100
Ammonia spike may have been very possible and often undetectable after the spike event.
 
Power head does not offer the needed oxygen but rather water flow. Suggested is an air stone.
What filter are you using?
If its a hang on back filter, likely insufficient as its a mechanical unit which polishes the water and you want to have mechanical , biological and chemical to manage proper water quality. The aquaclear will polish water and trap particles via the cartridge.
Chemical is what traps and breaks down chemical compounds such as feces and uneaten food often accomplished with use of carbon and GFO as examples
Biological is what utilizes the natural process of biological filtration such as use of ceramic nuggets, bio blocks, and microscopic bacteria surfaces as examples. Best it to add or use a hang on refugium such as Reef octopus or AquaMaxx unit and even add a hang on skimmer such as ice cap K1- or K2 100
Ammonia spike may have been very possible and often undetectable after the spike event.
Oh i didn’t know that I thought the water movement gave it oxygen I have an air stone in my other tank because I’m using chemiclean but when that’s finished I’ll put it in the other tank my filter is fluval AC50
 
Nyos, Salifert, and Red Sea are all good choices for test kits. Hannah checkers are really expensive, most people only use them for dkH and phosphate.
Nyos is less than accurate and most people use hanna for nitrate, ammonia, calcium, alk and in some cases Magnesium. I use the Hanna Master kit especially when it comes to coral and also easy to read. $55-$60 is not expensive when it comes to sustanability
 
Oh i didn’t know that I thought the water movement gave it oxygen I have an air stone in my other tank because I’m using chemiclean but when that’s finished I’ll put it in the other tank my filter is fluval AC50
It will aerate the tank if it is providing surface agitation. The protein skimmer will also provide oxygenation.
 
Nyos is less than accurate and most people use hanna for nitrate, ammonia, calcium, alk and in some cases Magnesium. I use the Hanna Master kit especially when it comes to coral and also easy to read. $55-$60 is not expensive when it comes to sustanability
$75 to start now for hanna test kits, with an additional ~$1 per test beyond the initial 10 they come with compared to ~$20 for between 50 - 200 tests on salifert depending on the kit. If you're testing Alk, calcium, nitrate, and phosphate weekly with hannah you're adding about $16 / month to your running costs of your tank.

Fwiw, the nyos kits are actually quite accurate. For example, the people have tested the nitrate test and it shows +/- 1-2ppm of nitrate which is the same precision that hannah reports.
 
Oh i didn’t know that I thought the water movement gave it oxygen I have an air stone in my other tank because I’m using chemiclean but when that’s finished I’ll put it in the other tank my filter is fluval AC50

The wide open mouth at death shows an oxygen deficiency. That can be caused by a gill disease, but more often, it is due to a lack of aeration.
 

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