NUKED TANK DON'T KNOW WHY

[Danjoethepirate]

No one asked the question, what are your parameters, and how are you testing. I am surprised by that, because it's the most asked question when there is a tank issue.

So, what are your parameters?

Also, are you checking salinity?

 

[Joe Tony]

All conditioners break chlorine and chloramine down into nh4 which is ammonia thats locked up for about 24hours giving the bacteria time to react. After this time frame the ammonia is released into the water and can harm the fish. Conditioners do nothing for heavy elements or iron or calcium which is in every water supply. Basically if your entire tank is treated water then you have induced an ammonia spike of 1-3ppm per gallon of treated water. When you include the live stock, decaying matter and things leaching from the rocks or sand bed after its been disturbed you are creating an environment that is easily able to shock most critters. I think youve just created the perfect situation and then the more water changes you do the more you are building up. Im sorry it happened but with as expensive as the hobby can be with mistakes distilled water is about 80 cents to a dollar a gallon. Its better to just look funny atthe store buying cases than to waste hundreds on livestock. A cheap rodi system will work but them small under the sink versions listed here still use membranes requiring 60psi. Most places wont have that. You are wasting 6 or 7 gallons of water per gallon of water created. The will get closer to 4:1 with 60-80psi. Its better to add 50$ with it and get a cheap system that includes a booster pump off Amazon. Im sorry for the lengthy reply

Assuming I don't add anything new to the tank now, and assuming I don't do any water changes, and only top off with distilled water. How long do you think it might take for the heavy metals and ammonia to fully leech out of the rock/sand, into the water column and out of the tank before it will be safe again to add some fish.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

All conditioners break chlorine and chloramine down into nh4 which is ammonia thats locked up for about 24hours giving the bacteria time to react. After this time frame the ammonia is released into the water and can harm the fish. Conditioners do nothing for heavy elements or iron or calcium which is in every water supply. Basically if your entire tank is treated water then you have induced an ammonia spike of 1-3ppm per gallon of treated water. When you include the live stock, decaying matter and things leaching from the rocks or sand bed after its been disturbed you are creating an environment that is easily able to shock most critters. I think youve just created the perfect situation and then the more water changes you do the more you are building up. Im sorry it happened but with as expensive as the hobby can be with mistakes distilled water is about 80 cents to a dollar a gallon. Its better to just look funny atthe store buying cases than to waste hundreds on livestock. A cheap rodi system will work but them small under the sink versions listed here still use membranes requiring 60psi. Most places wont have that. You are wasting 6 or 7 gallons of water per gallon of water created. The will get closer to 4:1 with 60-80psi. Its better to add 50$ with it and get a cheap system that includes a booster pump off Amazon. Im sorry for the lengthy reply

That is not true, or at least misleading.

There is no product reefers use that takes chlorine and make ammonia from it.

No conditioners reefers use effective hold ammonia for any
Period of time. Prime does not effectively bind ammonia based on independent testing.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Assuming I don't add anything new to the tank now, and assuming I don't do any water changes, and only top off with distilled water. How long do you think it might take for the heavy metals and ammonia to fully leech out of the rock/sand, into the water column and out of the tank before it will be safe again to add some fish.

I do not see this as a possible explanation of what happened.

 

[The Ugly Phase]

Is it possible I didn't rinse the chlorine off my hands/arms thoroughly enough when showering? And that some chlorine water got into the tank? That's the only possible explanation I can think of.

maybe the shower gel could do this

after iv washed my hands/go in the shower i stay the hell away from the tank

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Is the tank still cloudy?

Low oxygen from a bacterial bloom can be a fish killer.,

Ammonia is easy to monitor by testing.

 

[Dcloser12]

That is not true, or at least misleading.

There is no product reefers use that takes chlorine and make ammonia from it.

No conditioners reefers use effective hold ammonia for any
Period of time. Prime does not effectively bind ammonia based on independent testing.

 

[Dcloser12]

This is what I was referring to. Dying things releasing ammonia along with prime doing the same and your tanks cycle being broken or resetting is all the perfect circumstances to create a time bomb. Especially when you are doing massive water changes constantly to stay ahead of a problem you may be creating with water changes

 

[Reginald Reefer III]

That's not 100% true. That's marketing junk from Seachem. The actual chemistry does not support this the way it is stated in your picture.

Prime is very good at dechlorinating but their claims about ammonia is sketchy at best and the "complexed hydrosulfite salts" do not chemically support ammonia detox the way they state.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

This is what I was referring to. Dying things releasing ammonia along with prime doing the same and your tanks cycle being broken or resetting is all the perfect circumstances to create a time bomb. Especially when you are doing massive water changes constantly to stay ahead of a problem you may be creating with water changes

I know what the claims are, and it’s apparently not true. That’s why I posted. Folks have done extensive testing to evaluate this unsupported assertion that Seachem makes.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

if you think Seachem claims are accurate, you might read here:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/a...prime-cloram-x-rongalite-and-friends.1064206/