Possible Dino ID via microscope.

[Righteous]

Okay, got what I believe is dinos. Left the tank for a week on vacation so couldn’t dose NH and what was a small patch seems to have gotten worse.

This is my kids microscope. So not the best quality (really need to get a good one).

I’m thinking Amphidinium.

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[saltyhog]

Looks like prorocentrum .

 

[Micro-Reefs Aquarium]

Send that to me, so I can run it through my UV...

 

[Righteous]

Send that to me, so I can run it through my UV...

Do you have a recommendation... seems like 54W maybe 200gph for a 100g?

 

[jolt]

Seems reasonable. Here is a thread with a chart from one of the manufacturers: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/ideal-flow-rate-through-pentair-uv-40-watts.605354

It seems like you have probably already read through this or a similar one

 

[Righteous]

Seems reasonable. Here is a thread with a chart from one of the manufacturers: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/ideal-flow-rate-through-pentair-uv-40-watts.605354

It seems like you have probably already read through this or a similar one

Didn’t see the chart, so that’s super helpful. Many thanks.

 

[Micro-Reefs Aquarium]

Do you have a recommendation... seems like 54W maybe 200gph for a 100g?

I have much different values from you. My tank is only 12 gallons with Eheim 1000 that is under the 300 GPH threshold of the 5watt UV that is on it.

My return pump is connected to a 90 degree elbow and diffuser and that pump is rated 268 gph so I do fall below the highest setting for the UV.

My tank is only 2 months new bit has virtually zero algae growing. I was shooting for dinos being controlled but not any control for parasites, I run too fast for that.

 

[Righteous]

Added carbon last night, filter sock... and temporary 9w UV till a bigger one comes in. Woke up to one of my Acros RTNing. Is this common with this type of Dino?

 

[jolt]

I have not noticed dinos directly kill acros (that's not to say it doesn't happen though!). But they are competing with the acros and other organisms for nutrients and I think they are very efficient at it, so it's possible you are having low nutrients, or nutrient swings maybe?

 

[Righteous]

I’ve always skirted with low nutrients. Given being away on vacation with an auto feeder for dry food only, and now this Dino taking off.. I think you’re right.

I was a little worried that blowing off the dinos on the rocks was a bad idea, but I figured they moved into the water column at night anyway so it wouldn’t matter. Maybe that’s not the best idea?

I’m running a filter sock at the moment when I blow stuff off.

Thanks again.

 

[Righteous]

Yup... PO4 is now 0.04 and N03 is 0.1

I think what exacerbated it is being out of the house for a week the pH went up as CO2 went down.... I see a lot of growth in some stuff. Everything just sucked all the nutrients out

Perfect storm.

I’m slowly ramping N dosing back up and back to regular feeding. Anyone have experience on pushing PO4 and NO3 back up?

I tend to go slow with changes, but Dino is new to me. I don’t want it to get out of control.

 

[jolt]

I use NeoPhos and NeoNitro, I typically try to raise over a few days. I think your N is OK, but I would still watch both and measure after dosing. If it were me I would start with NeoPhos (or similar) until I hit 0.08, but I also keep my alk close to 8 so I think that is a little gentler with respect to PO4 than higher alk.

 

[LOVEROCK]

do the prorocentrum dinos go in water ? from your guys experience

 

[Righteous]

do the prorocentrum dinos go in water ? from your guys experience

I came across this guide which I found helpful. It says it will, but kind of needs some help.

Dinoflagellate Identification Guide

I've had this laying around for a while. Had some recent interest, so I tweaked it a bit and am posting it. Not really about cures just ID pictures, videos, and a few short facts. Hope it can be helpful.

www.reef2reef.com

Assuming mine is prorocentrum, it does go into the water to some degree. In the morning it is noticeably less on rocks and sand and returns throughout the day. I've also started giving it a help by blowing off rocks and sand at night which seems to be helping.