Question about pH boost vs different volumes to maintain the same alkalinity

Miami Reef

Reef Chem Enthusiast
View Badges
Joined
Sep 8, 2017
Messages
17,251
Reaction score
29,669
Location
Miami
What state or country do you live in
Florida
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Let’s assume we have a 100gal tank.

In the first scenario, we need 200mL of a sodium hydroxide solution to maintain 8dKH

In the second scenario, we need 400mL of the same sodium hydroxide solution to maintain 8dKH.


Is the pH boost of both scenarios the same, or is it different?
 
I would expect there ph in the higher demand tank to be higher. For 2 reasons- double the sodium hydroxide added and double the consumption (growth increases ph also)
 
The pH change is determined by the amount of hydroxide added, and is not appreciably impacted by how much water it is dissolved in for dosing.

Thus, 1 g in 100 mL ro/di has the same boost as 1 g in 1,000 mL, while 2 g will have twice the effect when in either 100 mL or 1,000 mL.
 
The pH change is determined by the amount of hydroxide added, and is not appreciably impacted by how much water it is dissolved in for dosing.

Thus, 1 g in 100 mL ro/di has the same boost as 1 g in 1,000 mL, while 2 g will have twice the effect when in either 100 mL or 1,000 mL.
I don’t think I made my question clear.

If organisms are releasing H+ back after consume bicarbonate/carbonate, then will the pH will go back to the way it was?

Thus, if I have a crazy stocked tank that consumes a massive amount of hydroxide, vs a minimally stocked tank that doesn‘t, but both tanks are maintained at 8dKH, will it be the same effect in pH boost?


I basically want to know if the pH reverts back when organisms pump the H+ back out.

Is the pH boost from hydroxide logarithmic: the larger the demand is, the higher the pH boost will be?
 
Organisms deposited calcium carbonate,

If you dose carbonate, there’s a pH boost when adding it and a pH decrease when it is consumed. There is no net overall effect. This one may surprise folks.

If you dose bicarbonate, there’s a pH drop when adding it and a pH decrease when carbonate is consumed. The net effect is a pH drop.

If you dose hydroxide, there’s a pH boost when adding it and a pH decrease when carbonate is consumed. The net effect is a pH boost.

The higher the alk demand, the more of each of these you need to add, and the more intense is the net overall effect of each.
 
Thus, if I have a crazy stocked tank that consumes a massive amount of hydroxide, vs a minimally stocked tank that doesn‘t, but both tanks are maintained at 8dKH, will it be the same effect in pH boost?

Specifically on that question, The more hydroxide you add to maintain the same alk, the higher the overall pH effect.
 
Last edited:
Organisms deposited calcium carbonate,

If you dose carbonate, there’s a pH boost when adding it and a pH decrease when it is consumed. There is no net overall effect. This one may surprise folks.

If you dose bicarbonate, there’s a pH drop when adding it and a pH decrease when carbonate is consumed. The net effect is a pH drop.

If you dose hydroxide, there’s a pH boost when adding it and a pH decrease when carbonate is consumed. The net effect is a pH boost.

The higher the alk demand, the more of each of these you need to add, and the more intense is the net overall effect of each.
Wow. I didn’t know this! Thank you so much.
 

TOP 10 Trending Threads

WHAT MOST OFTEN MAKES YOU REACH FOR YOUR CAMERA AROUND THE REEF?

  • Coral behavior (feeding, extension, or movement)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • New growth or a color change

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • Unusual fish behavior

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The whole tank looking especially good

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • Something I want to document in case it changes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A funny or unexpected interaction

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • I usually put the camera/phone down and just watch

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Other (Post in the comments)

    Votes: 2 18.2%
Back
Top
Home
Post thread…
Market
What's new