Questions regarding quarantine

[HAAAAAAAA]

I am gonna be getting some new fish such as tangs, butterflies and a grouper

But I currently only have a 10 gallon quarantine tank, will they all fit in?

I do have a 15 gallon unused sump which I can connect the 10 gallon to buy I have to make some keen adjustments to fit them all in, so would a 10 gallon suit them all?

Also, would just treating them with metronidazole and praziquantel for about a week or two be enough? Since those are the only medications I have besides another medication like ruby rally pro.
The fish i am gonna be getting is a sailfin tang, yellow tail mimic tang, lined butterfly, threadfin butterfly, red spotted or black spotted grouper, though if it's too much, i can cancel the threadfin butterfly for now

 

[Doctorgori]

to answer the initial question, no, I can’t visualize a 10g working ( how big is that grouper?)
…I used general cure and copper safe per recommendations here on R2R …
I’ve heard Praziquantel used as well for QT

hopefully the heavy hitters on R2R will clarify with better details

 

[HAAAAAAAA]

to answer the initial question, no, I can’t visualize it working
…I used general cure and copper safe per recommendations here on R2R …
hopefully the heavy hitters on R2R will clarify

General cure is a mixture of praziquantel and metronidazole, so i see them working for a broad range of external and internal parasites aswell as flukes, i see that groupers often come with flukes so my first thought was of praziquantel and metronidazole, and i would guess that ruby rally pro would be able to treat ich? I can't be dosing copper since the tank these fishes are gonna go in has a eel

 

[Doctorgori]

I’ve no experience with Rally Pro, I have some now but I’ve heard it garbage…dunno
I’ve used “Medic” + peroxide but I don’t have a dose or procedure to give with any confidence
I’d dose the copper during quarantine …somewhere there is a “ fast” 2 week quarantine protocol involving General cure followed by copper ….. Not as effective but thats what I do along with 2 UV filters in the qt tank

General cure is a mixture of praziquantel and metronidazole, so i see them working for a broad range of external and internal parasites aswell as flukes, i see that groupers often come with flukes so my first thought was of praziquantel and metronidazole, and i would guess that ruby rally pro would be able to treat ich? I can't be dosing copper since the tank these fishes are gonna go in has a eel

 

[nereefpat]

All those fish at once? I don't like that idea, mostly for ammonia reasons.

General cure is a mixture of praziquantel and metronidazole, so i see them working for a broad range of external and internal parasites aswell as flukes, i see that groupers often come with flukes so my first thought was of praziquantel and metronidazole, and i would guess that ruby rally pro would be able to treat ich?

General Cure is Prazi + Metro, yes. It should cover worms, including flukes. Best practice for those worms is to do one treatment, then wait 8 days and do another to cover worms that hadn't hatched earlier.

Ruby is formalin and some proprietary stuff. Whatever that is worth to you.

Neither would do a good job of covering you for ich or velvet, which is what copper would be for.

I can't be dosing copper since the tank these fishes are gonna go in has a eel

You could use it in a QT before fishes go into a display.

 

[HAAAAAAAA]

All those fish at once? I don't like that idea, mostly for ammonia reasons.

General Cure is Prazi + Metro, yes. It should cover worms, including flukes. Best practice for those worms is to do one treatment, then wait 8 days and do another to cover worms that hadn't hatched earlier.

Ruby is formalin and some proprietary stuff. Whatever that is worth to you.

Neither would do a good job of covering you for ich or velvet, which is what copper would be for.

You could use it in a QT before fishes go into a display.

Oh, i am just afraid that the fish might leech copper into the display tank, effecting the eel, as for the ammonia, i have some fine media from a established tank, the tanks been running for atleast a year with the media being about 2 - 3 months, since I usually discard the fine media, I might just use it for the quarantine tank, what do you think?

 

[ISpeakForTheSeas]

Oh, i am just afraid that the fish might leech copper into the display tank, effecting the eel

With a proper copper treatment, the fish wouldn't bring any copper with them.

 

[HAAAAAAAA]

With a proper copper treatment, the fish wouldn't bring any copper with them.

Thanks for the info!

 

[vetteguy53081]

I am gonna be getting some new fish such as tangs, butterflies and a grouper

But I currently only have a 10 gallon quarantine tank, will they all fit in?

I do have a 15 gallon unused sump which I can connect the 10 gallon to buy I have to make some keen adjustments to fit them all in, so would a 10 gallon suit them all?

Also, would just treating them with metronidazole and praziquantel for about a week or two be enough? Since those are the only medications I have besides another medication like ruby rally pro.
The fish i am gonna be getting is a sailfin tang, yellow tail mimic tang, lined butterfly, threadfin butterfly, red spotted or black spotted grouper, though if it's too much, i can cancel the threadfin butterfly for now

I recommend a 40 breeder and at Petco for one dollar a gallon sale

 

[HAAAAAAAA]

I recommend a 40 breeder and at Petco for one dollar a gallon sale

Thanks for the suggestion but I live in india, so here, there's no petco, neither have I seen one, the only way to get aquarium's here, is by preordering or get away with standard size's, though here, people don't see the amount of water a tank hold's, they just see how long or high the tank is, so getting a proper 40 gallon is difficult, unless I build one or pre order

 

[LaloJ]

If you are having a hard time getting larger sized tanks, where will you store the fish once the qt period is over? 10 gallons is too small to quarantine any fish larger than 2 or 3", I suggest you decrease your order of fish and try to get a larger tank to do qt, also if you intend to get all that fish, you might get a medicine with copper for your quarantine, just my opinion.

 

[littlefoxx]

Hum. Ive used ruby rally in my DT with my two eels and theyve never had any issues with it and my fish seemed to recover. But he is a blue tang and seems like he has a random ich outbreak once in a while that none of my other fish get. If that helps, I also dont like the idea of a 10 gal QT for all those fish since theyre big poopers!

 

[HAAAAAAAA]

I might just use the 15 gallon sump, since it has 4 compartments i can place 4 fish in each one, i hope it works out, though what kind of filtration should I use? I only have about 2 or 3 hang in the back filtrations so, should I use all of them?

 

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If you are having a hard time getting larger sized tanks, where will you store the fish once the qt period is over? 10 gallons is too small to quarantine any fish larger than 2 or 3", I suggest you decrease your order of fish and try to get a larger tank to do qt, also if you intend to get all that fish, you might get a medicine with copper for your quarantine, just my opinion.

Already pre ordered the glass I am gonna be making the 130 - 140 gallon tank with, so I am just gonna be quarantining the fish till the new tank is built

 

[littlefoxx]

I might just use the 15 gallon sump, since it has 4 compartments i can place 4 fish in each one, i hope it works out, though what kind of filtration should I use? I only have about 2 or 3 hang in the back filtrations so, should I use all of them?

Yes if this is your only option. Maybe see of you can get one or two in the order, QT, then maybe order another smaller batch?

 

[HAAAAAAAA]

Yes if this is your only option. Maybe see of you can get one or two in the order, QT, then maybe order another smaller batch?

If only I could order smaller batches, I can mostly order about 3 to 4 fish at once, that's the minimum requirement of the store,

 

[littlefoxx]

If only I could order smaller batches, I can mostly order about 3 to 4 fish at once, that's the minimum requirement of the store,

Oof okay yeah thats a pickle. Are these going in with the tessa??

 

[HAAAAAAAA]

Hum. Ive used ruby rally in my DT with my two eels and theyve never had any issues with it and my fish seemed to recover. But he is a blue tang and seems like he has a random ich outbreak once in a while that none of my other fish get. If that helps, I also dont like the idea of a 10 gal QT for all those fish since theyre big poopers!

Thanks for the info, i can definitely see the grouper being the one giving out the largest pooper

 

[HAAAAAAAA]

Oof okay yeah thats a pickle. Are these going in with the tessa??

Ohhhhh nooooo, hellll nahhh, i am gonna be making a 130-140 gallon tank serparate, the eel which got bitten by my Tessy last time is getting a tank upgrade! I would be one crazy ******* to put them in the tesses tank haha

 

[littlefoxx]

Ohhhhh nooooo, hellll nahhh, i am gonna be making a 130-140 gallon tank serparate, the eel which got bitten by my Tessy last time is getting a tank upgrade! I would be one crazy ******* to put them in the tesses tank haha

Lol thats why I thought I would ask!