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It's a decent chart from a more open perspective.
Can you tell me why you have your own thread and why you think you know so much about water chemistry? I just wanna know if you have a degree in it.IMO, that is just a marketing tool for their product. I could come up with a different list that makes their product seem not so desirable.
Some of the assertions do not even make sense. For example:
NO3-PO4-X and VSV reduce phosphate but vodka does not.
NO3-PO4-X and VSV are a "controlled" reduction but vodka is not.
That a refugium results in uncontrolled lowering of nutrients.
Can you tell me why you have your own thread and why you think you know so much about water chemistry? I just wanna know if you have a degree in it.
Can you tell me why you have your own thread and why you think you know so much about water chemistry? I just wanna know if you have a degree in it.
There's a reason Randy's name is part of the the R2R chem forum nameCan you tell me why you have your own thread and why you think you know so much about water chemistry? I just wanna know if you have a degree in it.
More open than what?
Secret ingredients with great claims without any supporting evidence are "open"?
Sorry Randy, not getting into a debate about it. You don't know the ingredients and to continually strike up an argument like you DO KNOW what's in it has gotten old.
I've used it in my tank and seen the results, you have not.
Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for you, but speculating on things we don't truly know the components of is pretty unprogressive. (yes, somebody did an analysis, but again, not all components were identified, that's where the argument ends)
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Sorry bro, not going to let you bait me into another long and drawn out debate.
I know you're smart, but for some reason you seem to have a chip on your shoulder.
There's 2 truths evident here:
1. Neither of us know what's in it down to the very last component. (unidentified substances are STILL unidentified substances; if you label all things contaminants when you can't identify them, then I've lost a bit of respect for ya.. )
2. I've seen it used in a tank. From what you say, you have not.
Cheers.
2. I've seen it used in a tank. From what you say, you have not.
Cheers.
No need to debate NOPOX, or even involve it at all to dissect some of the problems with the OP's chart from Red Sea.
As I pointed out earlier, they claim that:
1. VSV is a controlled nutrient reduction method, but vodka alone is not.
Does that make any sense to you?
It certainly doesn't to me.
2. They claim that VSV reduces phosphate by vodka alone does not.
Again, do that make sense to you?
It certainly doesn't to me.
3. That a refugium results in uncontrolled nutrient reduction.
Maybe they just don't understand how to control it, but changing the lighting times and/or the amount of macroalgae present certainly allows for control.
Do you see people around with out of control refugia that are driving nutrients too low?