jjg77
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I have a Red Sea MAX S-1000 G2+ that is less than 1 year old. I noticed this separation in the top left corner where the euro brace connects with the front glass. Is this something to be concerned about?
Red Sea MAX S-1000 G2+ seam concern
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The forums blogs and websites who sell ads for Red Sea are in on this, because they will not warn buyers that we don’t know how many production lots are impacted by seam design issues
By in on this, I mean when I press them to comment anyway, to fairly inform their readers, I’m shut down by private message telling me they won’t comment. It’s not possible to be any more direct: podcasts know the truth and won’t tell readers, forums know it but get cash for relaying ad links to readers, magazine editors know about Red Sea breaks but won’t write or publish an article, I’ve emailed them.
Red Sea ad revenue dollar greed is why there is no public warning. Readers who buy these tanks are posting seam breaks for the last several years.
Perhaps this was a good tank, with bracing, but a bad stand? Where will the rationalization stop? Who’s having to trace out this many causatives with a waterbox tank?
By in on this, I mean when I press them to comment anyway, to fairly inform their readers, I’m shut down by private message telling me they won’t comment. It’s not possible to be any more direct: podcasts know the truth and won’t tell readers, forums know it but get cash for relaying ad links to readers, magazine editors know about Red Sea breaks but won’t write or publish an article, I’ve emailed them.
Red Sea ad revenue dollar greed is why there is no public warning. Readers who buy these tanks are posting seam breaks for the last several years.
Perhaps this was a good tank, with bracing, but a bad stand? Where will the rationalization stop? Who’s having to trace out this many causatives with a waterbox tank?
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@jjg77
Hey can we use your thread here to document a transfer of your system out, into a new tank or a receiving tank? It’s a win to be able to pattern that type of preemptive transfer out, for others to be able to use as a copy.
We could move your stuff into one or two totes first, get it running safely, then finally again into whatever new tank you choose
Appreciate the heads up Vintage
Hey can we use your thread here to document a transfer of your system out, into a new tank or a receiving tank? It’s a win to be able to pattern that type of preemptive transfer out, for others to be able to use as a copy.
We could move your stuff into one or two totes first, get it running safely, then finally again into whatever new tank you choose
Appreciate the heads up Vintage
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I have a friendly warning to relay
If you are reefing in a Red Sea tank that was made since 2019, transfer out now, before it’s too late. We don’t see lots of break examples before then, the stark patterns come from 2019 editions and later, by a landslide.
If blogs, forum owners and sales entities would just write a short blurb or something similar, anything besides actively suppressing any warning while still sending me ads where I can win, they’d not appear so greedy.
Case in point
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If you are reefing in a Red Sea tank that was made since 2019, transfer out now, before it’s too late. We don’t see lots of break examples before then, the stark patterns come from 2019 editions and later, by a landslide.
If blogs, forum owners and sales entities would just write a short blurb or something similar, anything besides actively suppressing any warning while still sending me ads where I can win, they’d not appear so greedy.
Case in point
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Here was my comments that stayed up two weeks then they tried to hide, but are now caught.
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Let me transfer it all out into a new system. We can keep that entire reef alive no matter how many times you bounce it using special means
We can save it right now, pick a new holding tank. Or let’s move into two totes and reef there a while then do a final transfer
We can save it right now, pick a new holding tank. Or let’s move into two totes and reef there a while then do a final transfer
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Hope things work out,
Following this, please post as soon as it gets resolved..
I likewise have a ticket open so the timing and ultimate fail to resolution length of time is important
Following this, please post as soon as it gets resolved..
I likewise have a ticket open so the timing and ultimate fail to resolution length of time is important
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I am not sure in what reality that you think that accusing a company of "being in on it" and trying to publicly pressure or shame them is going to get any other type of response, especially you not being a RS customer or a customer of any of the companies that you are attacking, but are also very openly outspoken against them all to begin with.
Good luck with that.
In an ideal world advertisers and resellers may opt to take some type of stand (no pun) -- that is not the reality either. If one looks at the situation pragmatically, then it is easy to understand.
Good luck with your crusade.
Tip: If somebody walks up to you and says "Hi, Are you Brandon blah blah"... run. You are being served
@jjg77 - that tank is failing, one way or the other. I would push very hard for an outright return. RS may offer you an replacement, if so... sell it and go with a different brand. Peace of mind is priceless.
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@flashsmith
Hey you've been busy in helping people discern what's going on with these red sea tank breaks, how to recover, patterns involved over these last few years
What's your take on this one? Should every blog and magazine we read all decide this is crazy and we aren't supporting doing this to reefing peers?
What if they don't speak up, should we prompt them to discuss it anyway, or leave it be?
I have a reef beef with tanks that are brand new, and splitting, in pattern.
A sensible comment from a Red Sea supporting business might be:
Red Sea is a known leading industry innovator for the marine hobby
Every reefer likely has rs products serving them well, as we speak (my hydrometer is Red Sea, I trust that hydrometer to keep my tank alive for years using it for example)
However there have been concerning tank splits posted the last 24 months and I didn’t see much expediency from Red Sea to reach out and seek details from seam-issue owners (reality: they deleted Facebook posts on the matter we see in reports, but we could leave that out so as not to offend dad->so the disclosure reads pleasantly to all and can be printed right where the sales ads are)
continued possible public disclosure:
…and, we didn’t get any reports from Red Sea tank buyers currently using this generation tank saying anyone reached out to them since their purchase receipts show them to be part of an investigated production lot, you know; a preemptive reach out that could save my floors and ten thousand dollars in reef life.
As soon as possible, I’d like to see Red Sea quickly address the matter.
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Why is that so hard for a person to write
Can’t something sensible, and short be said or it’s got to be full silence?
ten minutes later after writing (or speaking) anything along those lines of discussion, that entity could legit sell me a Red Sea tank or product (try to) because I’d know they keep an eye out for the occasional bad referrals they might unintentionally do and they’ll speak on it, no prompts required.
Hey you've been busy in helping people discern what's going on with these red sea tank breaks, how to recover, patterns involved over these last few years
What's your take on this one? Should every blog and magazine we read all decide this is crazy and we aren't supporting doing this to reefing peers?
What if they don't speak up, should we prompt them to discuss it anyway, or leave it be?
I have a reef beef with tanks that are brand new, and splitting, in pattern.
A sensible comment from a Red Sea supporting business might be:
Red Sea is a known leading industry innovator for the marine hobby
Every reefer likely has rs products serving them well, as we speak (my hydrometer is Red Sea, I trust that hydrometer to keep my tank alive for years using it for example)
However there have been concerning tank splits posted the last 24 months and I didn’t see much expediency from Red Sea to reach out and seek details from seam-issue owners (reality: they deleted Facebook posts on the matter we see in reports, but we could leave that out so as not to offend dad->so the disclosure reads pleasantly to all and can be printed right where the sales ads are)
continued possible public disclosure:
…and, we didn’t get any reports from Red Sea tank buyers currently using this generation tank saying anyone reached out to them since their purchase receipts show them to be part of an investigated production lot, you know; a preemptive reach out that could save my floors and ten thousand dollars in reef life.
As soon as possible, I’d like to see Red Sea quickly address the matter.
_______________________________________________________
Why is that so hard for a person to write
Can’t something sensible, and short be said or it’s got to be full silence?
ten minutes later after writing (or speaking) anything along those lines of discussion, that entity could legit sell me a Red Sea tank or product (try to) because I’d know they keep an eye out for the occasional bad referrals they might unintentionally do and they’ll speak on it, no prompts required.
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@Thales
Is there any place that would possibly let us discuss this matter to see if people find this trend:
1. Not an issue, a zero
2. Possibly maybe soon beginning to become an issue, only since G2's are in play now. The several hundred prior G2 breaks were never factored as they're out of warranty.
or, this option, is where i think the listeners are at:
3. seriously? we could have been warned 21 months ago using broader reefing knowledge channels - when gigantic threads logging patterned red sea breaks hit the major forums and everyone read about the issue we could have been warned?
*being the first non reef forum entity to discuss and warn readers about red sea seam splits is a very very good- looking spot (from the hobbyist pov of course)
Is there any place that would possibly let us discuss this matter to see if people find this trend:
1. Not an issue, a zero
2. Possibly maybe soon beginning to become an issue, only since G2's are in play now. The several hundred prior G2 breaks were never factored as they're out of warranty.
or, this option, is where i think the listeners are at:
3. seriously? we could have been warned 21 months ago using broader reefing knowledge channels - when gigantic threads logging patterned red sea breaks hit the major forums and everyone read about the issue we could have been warned?
*being the first non reef forum entity to discuss and warn readers about red sea seam splits is a very very good- looking spot (from the hobbyist pov of course)
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I thought he was on your ignore list?
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