Reefbreeders or T5 Hybrid (Is T5 getting phased out?)

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Hello All,

I’m picking up a Waterbox 145.5 near the end of the month and I’ve narrowed down to:

1. 50” Reefbreeders

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2. 61” Aquatic Life T5 Hybrid

I was going to go with the T5 route but hearing too many things about how T5 are being phased out since there was a ban in Europe where the T5 are being made.

Anyone have any thoughts or comments?
 
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They have been saying that since 2018. Lobbying slows things down.

It doesn’t seem like every bulb will be phased out and exemptions will be in place for some.

HL R7 halogens will remain available on the market, and some fluorescents such as T5s.



 
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There's a pretty large T5 market, so I wouldn't expect them to go away anytime soon. If ATI or Geismann stopped production, I'd think someone else would step up and enjoy a nice profit in that arena. Coming from an AquaticLife T5 Hybrid Dimmable owner. ;-)
 

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They have been saying that since 2018. Lobbying slows things down.

It doesn’t seem like every bulb will be phased out.

HL R7 halogens will remain available on the market, and some fluorescents such as T5s.



Its been rumored since 2008 that t12's were being discontinued too lol.
And here we are 13 years later still ordering t12 bulbs in my shop.
 
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I’d go hybrid if my tank was large enough. I’m running the reefbreeders now though and I have no complaints
Reefbreeders is definitely nice… saves on bunch of cords. 1 plug instead of 4
 
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What led would you go with if you used the aquatic life. Is the question reef breeders alone, or reef breeders WITH the aquatic life. The hybrid unit doesn’t come with leds. Just t5’s and hardware to add another manufacturers led units
If I go reeferbreeders it would be by itself.

If I do the aquaticlife hybrid, it would be with my two XR15s that I have.
 
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I've been on the fence about the T5 fixture. I figured the bulbs can last up to 24 months if you stretch it, so over the next year just purchase five sets and it's good to go for about 10 years, lol. If they become unavailable I'd have replacements.
 

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T5 and halide bulbs will be around for a long time and for good reason. Don't believe the nonsense someone else writes about them going away.
I am so glad I retired my ecotechs. I will phase myself out if I have to use those again.

After studying Coral Euphoria and Reef Bum channels I am replacing 10k white with 6500 t5s. Get what only 40 usd to try not 899 ;)
 
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I've been on the fence about the T5 fixture. I figured the bulbs can last up to 24 months if you stretch it, so over the next year just purchase five sets and it's good to go for about 10 years, lol. If they become unavailable I'd have replacements.
There are some references to phase out in Eu countries in 2025 with plenty of notice and stocking possible if it ever does happen.

World wide corals in extended inerviews openly admits transitioning stock to LEDs was a major undertaking. I would take it one step further. The reaon you do not see a lot of old school SPS anymore in regional areas is hobby attrition and they did not make transition. This is highly debatable because they can be had, just not cheap and plentiful

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There is banter about costs of LEDs being cheaper. High end SPS tank will need 3 Ecotechs for full coverage of and units last 5 years or so with faster planned obsolesence. 899 x 3 / 5 = 550 in annual equipment costs at 400- 500 wats at 12 -15" height

ATI 8 x 54w = 650 for unit and (25 * 8) for bulbs = 850 + 400 in more bulbs (250 in annual equipment costs) 350 to 400 watts at 9" Height. There is not much debate how even and reliable this coverage will be. This fixture has 10 year life.

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Taking this step further the LED drivers are assembled units kept above the tank and serviced with highly proprietary parts if even available at time needed. Just buy more the next model will be better. Without any standardization of LED parts it will be a money grab staying in the hobby. Corals are no more healthy and growth is no better than a decade ago.
 
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Do you have sps?
I did in the beginning but never had luck. Nothing with the lights though. I was having trouble keeping my parameters stable. Only minor complaint about the reefbreeders is the color blending could be a little better
 

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I have a 61 in AquaticLife T5 setup on my tank and I will not change. If for some reason the bulbs are phased out in another country, they will simply move to the US and make them.
 
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