Regal QT

[spartanman22]

Hey all,

I wanted to get some opinions from wiser hobbyists than myself! I picked up a small yellow belly regal from my LFS a week ago. They had him for 3 weeks. He wasn’t eating frozen but was super plump and healthy looking so I rolled the dice. He immediately hammered live bloodworms in my observation system so good start!

My question is how would you approach QT. My LFS runs therapeutic copper in their systems. They keep a very detailed logbook of daily copper readings and the minimum concentration the system had during the regals time there was 2.32 ppm.

I put him into my QT, which is currently copper free - it’s been 6-8 weeks since I’ve last finished a QT cycle.

Given that this fish has been in therapeutic copper for 3 weeks would you start a fresh 30 day copper cycle? Or keep him in observation for a few weeks to see if anything manifests before jumping into a treatment? And if the latter how long unmedicated would you feel comfortable with zero symptoms before graduating him to the display? 2 weeks, 4 weeks, etc? Or is the answer never and is this just about giving him some unmedicated time to relax before committing to a full copper QT again?

Just curious on best approach going forward for him.

Also it does look like he may have a little bacterial deal on one of his fins? Was going to do some Rally dips to help.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hey all,

I wanted to get some opinions from wiser hobbyists than myself! I picked up a small yellow belly regal from my LFS a week ago. They had him for 3 weeks. He wasn’t eating frozen but was super plump and healthy looking so I rolled the dice. He immediately hammered live bloodworms in my observation system so good start!

My question is how would you approach QT. My LFS runs therapeutic copper in their systems. They keep a very detailed logbook of daily copper readings and the minimum concentration the system had during the regals time there was 2.32 ppm.

I put him into my QT, which is currently copper free - it’s been 6-8 weeks since I’ve last finished a QT cycle.

Given that this fish has been in therapeutic copper for 3 weeks would you start a fresh 30 day copper cycle? Or keep him in observation for a few weeks to see if anything manifests before jumping into a treatment? And if the latter how long unmedicated would you feel comfortable with zero symptoms before graduating him to the display? 2 weeks, 4 weeks, etc? Or is the answer never and is this just about giving him some unmedicated time to relax before committing to a full copper QT again?

Just curious on best approach going forward for him.

Also it does look like he may have a little bacterial deal on one of his fins? Was going to do some Rally dips to help.

As these fish are subject to flukes, I recommend use of PraziPro dosed at 85% of recommended dose and allow it to work for 7 days, change water and apply one more application lasting 7 days and do add an air stone as Prazi lowers both oxygen and appetite. The spot on the fin appears to be Lymphocystis which is viral and not of harm

 

[spartanman22]

Hey all,

I wanted to get some opinions from wiser hobbyists than myself! I picked up a small yellow belly regal from my LFS a week ago. They had him for 3 weeks. He wasn’t eating frozen but was super plump and healthy looking so I rolled the dice. He immediately hammered live bloodworms in my observation system so good start!

My question is how would you approach QT. My LFS runs therapeutic copper in their systems. They keep a very detailed logbook of daily copper readings and the minimum concentration the system had during the regals time there was 2.32 ppm.

I put him into my QT, which is currently copper free - it’s been 6-8 weeks since I’ve last finished a QT cycle.

Given that this fish has been in therapeutic copper for 3 weeks would you start a fresh 30 day copper cycle? Or keep him in observation for a few weeks to see if anything manifests before jumping into a treatment? And if the latter how long unmedicated would you feel comfortable with zero symptoms before graduating him to the display? 2 weeks, 4 weeks, etc? Or is the answer never and is this just about giving him some unmedicated time to relax before committing to a full copper QT again?

Just curious on best approach going forward for him.

Also it does look like he may have a little bacterial deal on one of his fins? Was going to do some Rally dips to help.

As these fish are subject to flukes, I recommend use of PraziPro dosed at 85% of recommended dose and allow it to work for 7 days, change water and apply one more application lasting 7 days and do add an air stone as Prazi lowers both oxygen and appetite. The spot on the fin appears to be Lymphocystis which is viral and not of harm

Ya definitely planned to run Prazi. I always run prazi post copper, but given that I’m not starting with copper I can start with Prazi.

The only reason I didn’t jump to lympho is it looks more pinkish/reddish in person. I thought lympho was usually white?

 

[W31Olds]

I would still do a Copper Treatment then Prazi, however you should be able to reduce the time in Copper. As I see it your only real risk is if the LFS just added some infected Fish to the System before the Copper had a had to work. This is a good question for Jay.
@Jay Hemdal

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hey all,

I wanted to get some opinions from wiser hobbyists than myself! I picked up a small yellow belly regal from my LFS a week ago. They had him for 3 weeks. He wasn’t eating frozen but was super plump and healthy looking so I rolled the dice. He immediately hammered live bloodworms in my observation system so good start!

My question is how would you approach QT. My LFS runs therapeutic copper in their systems. They keep a very detailed logbook of daily copper readings and the minimum concentration the system had during the regals time there was 2.32 ppm.

I put him into my QT, which is currently copper free - it’s been 6-8 weeks since I’ve last finished a QT cycle.

Given that this fish has been in therapeutic copper for 3 weeks would you start a fresh 30 day copper cycle? Or keep him in observation for a few weeks to see if anything manifests before jumping into a treatment? And if the latter how long unmedicated would you feel comfortable with zero symptoms before graduating him to the display? 2 weeks, 4 weeks, etc? Or is the answer never and is this just about giving him some unmedicated time to relax before committing to a full copper QT again?

Just curious on best approach going forward for him.

Also it does look like he may have a little bacterial deal on one of his fins? Was going to do some Rally dips to help.

You might be ok with 3 weeks of full copper.

I wouldn’t dip that fish - the handling damage is going to outweigh any benefit from dipping it in rally pro.

 

[spartanman22]

Hey all,

I wanted to get some opinions from wiser hobbyists than myself! I picked up a small yellow belly regal from my LFS a week ago. They had him for 3 weeks. He wasn’t eating frozen but was super plump and healthy looking so I rolled the dice. He immediately hammered live bloodworms in my observation system so good start!

My question is how would you approach QT. My LFS runs therapeutic copper in their systems. They keep a very detailed logbook of daily copper readings and the minimum concentration the system had during the regals time there was 2.32 ppm.

I put him into my QT, which is currently copper free - it’s been 6-8 weeks since I’ve last finished a QT cycle.

Given that this fish has been in therapeutic copper for 3 weeks would you start a fresh 30 day copper cycle? Or keep him in observation for a few weeks to see if anything manifests before jumping into a treatment? And if the latter how long unmedicated would you feel comfortable with zero symptoms before graduating him to the display? 2 weeks, 4 weeks, etc? Or is the answer never and is this just about giving him some unmedicated time to relax before committing to a full copper QT again?

Just curious on best approach going forward for him.

Also it does look like he may have a little bacterial deal on one of his fins? Was going to do some Rally dips to help.

You might be ok with 3 weeks of full copper.

I wouldn’t dip that fish - the handling damage is going to outweigh any benefit from dipping it in rally pro.

Ok appreciate the feedback! Are you suggesting the 3 weeks at therapeutic copper at the LFS may be sufficient? Or you’re saying a new 3 week cycle in copper with me?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Ok appreciate the feedback! Are you suggesting the 3 weeks at therapeutic copper at the LFS may be sufficient? Or you’re saying a new 3 week cycle in copper with me?

No - sorry, what I meant was that the three weeks at the store *might* have been enough, if it was done for a full dose for all three weeks, and it came straight out of full copper when it left there AND if any fish you’ve since put in in with have gone through full copper.

These fish are so delicate that I’m trying to see how you can minimize time in the QT without increasing the disease risk too much.

 

[spartanman22]

Ok appreciate the feedback! Are you suggesting the 3 weeks at therapeutic copper at the LFS may be sufficient? Or you’re saying a new 3 week cycle in copper with me?

No - sorry, what I meant was that the three weeks at the store *might* have been enough, if it was done for a full dose for all three weeks, and it came straight out of full copper when it left there AND if any fish you’ve since put in in with have gone through full copper.

These fish are so delicate that I’m trying to see how you can minimize time in the QT without increasing the disease risk too much.

Gotcha ok understood. My thought process was let’s just observe for a few weeks maybe I’ll get lucky and the 3 weeks of copper at the LFS was sufficient. If not then I can start another copper cycle. I just didn’t want to jump into another 4 week cycle if I didn’t absolutely have to.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ya definitely planned to run Prazi. I always run prazi post copper, but given that I’m not starting with copper I can start with Prazi.

The only reason I didn’t jump to lympho is it looks more pinkish/reddish in person. I thought lympho was usually white?

You can run coppersafe after Prazipro especially if sole fish in QT