SCAM ALERT!!! PLEASE READ

[Saltyreef]

When you can walk into a store, steal up to $5000 in goods and casually walk out without being charged (and even if caught it's no longer a criminal offence) - what do you expect? We've been breeding a generation or more of people with absolutely zero conscience or sense of morality.

We? No sir. I teach my children right from wrong even if the law doesnt agree LOL.

Breeding ignorant children is the fault of the ignorant parents

 

[blaxsun]

We? No sir. I teach my children right from wrong even if the law doesnt agree LOL.

Breeding ignorant children is the fault of the ignorant parents

"We" as in society as a whole. Your kids and my kids get to watch the 'other' kids shoplift without consequence.

 

[Saltyreef]

"We" as in society as a whole. Your kids and my kids get to watch the 'other' kids shoplift without consequence.

Totally get you.
but its our job to steer them in the right path to make the better decisions of not to shoplift even though there are no concequences.

Parents need to be more involved in their kids life IMHO.

 

[Saltyreef]

But now we just went down a rabbit hole on a side convo LOL

 

[Karen00]

Such a sad profession "scammer" is in this world. How do these people sleep at night?

It's sad to say but I'm sure they sleep just fine at night. :-( It's easy to do what they do when they have no moral compass.

 

[MnFish1]

Yeah, pics or no, I'd be highly suspicious of an account created less than a week ago and not particpating at all offering to sell me something.

I thought things couldnt be sold unless they had been here for x weeks or posted x messages?

 

[Karen00]

It's a sad state the world has come to when we have to research the people we are buying from. I'm sure scamming people has been going on since the stone age but the internet makes it so easy to pull it off and not be caught. The moral compass of humanity is starting to point in the wrong direction but I digress. Thanks OP for posting this. I think we need a new Scam Alert section. I think there have been a couple of these in just the past month.

 

[Karen00]

I thought things couldnt be sold unless they had been here for x weeks or posted x messages?

Legit members are posting in WTB and being messaged by scammers. This is different than posting in the selling section which is where you need the post count, etc.

 

[MnFish1]

Legit members are posting in WTB and being messaged by scammers. This is different than posting in the selling section which is where you need the post count, etc.

Yes - all good- I was not aware that people could send PMs/conversations unless they met some criteria. Perhaps that should be considered.

 

[Cashcorals]

good catch

 

[Karen00]

Maybe some restrictions need to be put on private messaging as well. Maybe folks need to be a member for a month and have so many comments before they can PM. I think I was a member of a site that had this type of msging restriction. That would weed out most scammers (I hope). Maybe comments in WTB should also have similar restrictions that way scammers can't reply to WTB posts. It's sad when things like this have to be implemented to protect the community.

 

[FishyFishFish]

It's a sad state the world has come to when we have to research the people we are buying from. I'm sure scamming people has been going on since the stone age but the internet makes it so easy to pull it off and not be caught. The moral compass of humanity is starting to point in the wrong direction but I digress. Thanks OP for posting this. I think we need a new Scam Alert section. I think there have been a couple of these in just the past month.

International - PSA: Exercise caution when posting Wanted To Buy Threads

Please be aware of scammers trying to steal money from members. Users who post wanted to buy ads receive a PM from a new, or newer account with no posts on the forum. The PM looks something like this; Update: New messages are having members text a phone number. Anytime a third party is...

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I've been posting stuff in here. The trouble is, the scammers just keep setting up new accounts so it's hard to warn people about individuals. The generic warning to just to be on your guard.

I must say, that I've reported a few scammers and R2R has dealt with them very quickly (within a few minutes), but they just pop up again with a new account.

 

[MnFish1]

It's a sad state the world has come to when we have to research the people we are buying from. I'm sure scamming people has been going on since the stone age but the internet makes it so easy to pull it off and not be caught. The moral compass of humanity is starting to point in the wrong direction but I digress. Thanks OP for posting this. I think we need a new Scam Alert section. I think there have been a couple of these in just the past month.

I think the 'sad state' has been in place since the world started. Thus the phrase 'caveat emptor' (let the buyer beware). I think the scam alert is when you look and see the person has a new account - and no posts, etc.

Note - I'm not disagreeing with you. Except a 'scam alert' won't really help - they will just change their email, etc - right? I can't remember the vetting process when I signed up for R2R years ago - but currently - if you sign up for nearly any site - you need to verify at least your email, etc like an authentication process when you sign up.

Also having said that - seems like R2R is already helping in this - in the sense that they warn consistently for people to use PayPal, etc (which would completely protect you against a scammer) But maybe to that 'warning' add - do not accept offers to sell equipment that do not meet the same requirements that the other sellers do - i.e. make it a TOS violation to solicit people on the wanted to buy section unless they meet those same criteria.

 

[Karen00]

International - PSA: Exercise caution when posting Wanted To Buy Threads

Please be aware of scammers trying to steal money from members. Users who post wanted to buy ads receive a PM from a new, or newer account with no posts on the forum. The PM looks something like this; Update: New messages are having members text a phone number. Anytime a third party is...

www.reef2reef.com

I've been posting stuff in here. The trouble is, the scammers just keep setting up new accounts so it's hard to warn people about individuals. The generic warning to just to be on your guard.

I must say, that I've reported a few scammers and R2R has dealt with them very quickly (within a few minutes), but they just pop up again with a new account.

Oh ya, creating new accounts is standard. Thanks for sharing that section. It's sad this is what the world has come to. :-( No space is safe anymore.

 

[vetteguy53081]

What are requirements to sell on this site?
Reefcentral.com was or still is you need 50 posts before you can even get to use classified.

10 meaningful posts.
Saying " Hello" or " I agree" as examples are not meaningful.

Meaningful are a conversation, sharing an experience, going on any of the sub forums and getting imvolved in conversations

 

[FishyFishFish]

10 meaningful posts.
Saying " Hello" or " I agree" as examples are not meaningful.

Meaningful are a conversation, sharing an experience, going on any of the sub forums and getting imvolved in conversations

I agree

 

[MnFish1]

10 meaningful posts.
Saying " Hello" or " I agree" as examples are not meaningful.

Meaningful are a conversation, sharing an experience, going on any of the sub forums and getting imvolved in conversations

Do you think it makes sense (if the system allows it) - to add those requirements to allow people to PM another member? OR - put it in the TOS to not allow anyone to PM someone with a selling offer unless they meet those criteria?

Part of me thinks common sense and the multiple warnings already in place are 'enough' - but curious as to your opinion

 

[ColoredRock]

I use this user name.. over the 2 forums I look at... and I went as Finsoup.. Back on RS decades ago... my point being is .. history.... and references.. other wise caveat emptor.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Do you think it makes sense (if the system allows it) - to add those requirements to allow people to PM another member? OR - put it in the TOS to not allow anyone to PM someone with a selling offer unless they meet those criteria?

Part of me thinks common sense and the multiple warnings already in place are 'enough' - but curious as to your opinion

It does make sense but also requires common sense. The rules have changed a bit over the last 2 years

 

[KrisReef]

It's sad to say but I'm sure "THEY" sleep just fine at night. :-( It's easy to do what they do when they have no moral compass.

It's the moral-less pop culture combined with the magic phone teaching technology and time, with just a little politics thrown in to adjust the 10 commandments into Freedom of Choice!:

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