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Is this the right bottle to use when trying to pull out phosphate from rock?

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Look up the MSDS and it will tell you the content.
I think that's the one people have used..
 

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The one used is SeaKlear Phosphate Remover. I would not use Free & Klear on my rock. It does not show the components in the SDS sheet but states it's a three part formula for phosphates, oil removal, and algaecide.
 

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Also there is also another product used called Natural Chemistry PHOSfree which is the same as SeaKlear phosphate remover it's just less concentrated but much easier find. Make sure not to get phosfree+ just regular phosfree.
 
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Also there is also another product used called Natural Chemistry PHOSfree which is the same as SeaKlear phosphate remover it's just less concentrated but much easier find. Make sure not to get phosfree+ just regular phosfree.
Where would one find this?
 

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Leslie's pool supply is one popular place although a bit more expensive. I would call whatever the closest pool supply place is and ask if they carry either SeaKlear phosphate remover or phosfree. If you're not in a hurry you can save a few bucks and order online.
 
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Leslie's pool supply is one popular place although a bit more expensive. I would call whatever the closest pool supply place is and ask if they carry either SeaKlear phosphate remover or phosfree. If you're not in a hurry you can save a few bucks and order online.
Local store had this on sale, hope I got the right one this time. Since it's less concentrated do I still find the dosage directions for what I find searching the forums for sea klear?

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That's the stuff don't remember what SeaKlear is but this one is an 11% concentration if I remember correctly. I think I diluted 25ml in a liter of RO and dose it over about 12 hrs. If this is just Liverock no need to filter. If it's a running reef make sure to either drip into a 5 micron sock or other appropriate filter.
 
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No reef, just dry rock wanted to pull out the possible phosphate before I start it up. Does it have to be RO or can I do it with tap? The reason I ask is because I should be moving soon and don't want to fill with RO just yet.
 

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Never tried with regular water, Only reason I would say RO is that I wouldn't want anything else like chlorine possibly being absorbed by the rock. Might want to ask that one on a LR curing forum.
 
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Never tried with regular water, Only reason I would say RO is that I wouldn't want anything else like chlorine possibly being absorbed by the rock. Might want to ask that one on a LR curing forum.
Thank you sir for all the help!
 

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Treated tap would be fine for curing dry rock.....I have not used that product. I'd toss in a polyfilter. One it will take care of any heavy metals from the tap and the phosphates.

Do need to understand that curing is not cycling.
IF you are moving soon going to need to cycle soon too no? one can cure and cycle fishless at the same time.
 
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I do understand that curing is not cycling, I don't have to start my cycle right now, I have a temporary tank set up and would much rather wait until the tank is in the new house to start the cycle. If all goes well with the bank I should be moving next month.
 

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Thats what I am saying...there is no need to cure...if it's going into a cycling tank.
 
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Curing is for an Established tank b/c you dont wanna jack up ammonia, etc. Curing in a cycling tank helps the cycle along b/c if does decay some and helps the bacteria grow.

Laymans.....put the dry rock as is into your new tank...and cycle it. It will be just fine.
 
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Ahhh I get you, so should I just wait until the move before I start anything?
 

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Yes wait.


But to detail if you wanna understand the Why. All Dry rock has dried out jerky critters on it, that dried instead of decomposed long ago. Soon as they hit water they arnt going to start decomposing again...
For it to be Used its got to finished decomposing those critters.

Just sticking it into an established tank can cause issues..... all those dead things spike ammonia etc. Problem.

In a baby tank... expecting a Spike in it really doesnt matter you want it shoving in shrimp and frozen food in anyway. It's going to help, it's food..for the bacteria that you need to build up in your tanks eco system. Can "Cure" and cycle at the same time :)
 

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Dose is largely unimportant as long as you have enough in the water to bring down the phosphate. How much is needed may depend on how much phosphate is being released.
 

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