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looks like i am gonna have to make the worst most expensive QT tank 
Starphire Glass Has a haze (pictures included)
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Mandelstam
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looks like i am gonna have to make the worst most expensive QT tank
No reply from the manufacturer yet?
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Nope!
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Have you or can you measure for any stray voltage in the tank?
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Nah, how would this stray voltage be caused? Bad main lines or electrical wiring?
My other tank I used to feel a current when I put my hand in the sump, probably caused by exposed wiring. This tank all electrical is located in a box outside of the tank.
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Only reason I ask is because annealed glass is softer than tempered glass, low iron glass (starfire) is softer than standard glass. You can have annealed or tempered for either. For softest to hardest would be; annealed low iron, annealed standard, tempered low iron, then tempered standard being hardest.
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The 2 viewing panels that are foggy are Low-iron glass. I imagined they are Tempered and the back panel (which is drilled) is non-tempered. However, no mention of it on the receipt.
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1 of the Terms & Conditions on the contract:
______ is not responsible for any imperfections of materials including bubbles, minor scratches and stress marks that are caused by the manufacturing process of said materials that may appear before and after aquarium is functional per American society for testing and material (ASTM) standard. low-iron and tempered glass are more susceptible to imperfections.
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______ is not responsible for any imperfections of materials including bubbles, minor scratches and stress marks that are caused by the manufacturing process of said materials that may appear before and after aquarium is functional per American society for testing and material (ASTM) standard. low-iron and tempered glass are more susceptible to imperfections.
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in brighter news my tank is finally mature and stable enough to grow Acros and montis, I purchased a pack from a hobbyist few weeks ago and stuck with them now!. Hopefully I can see them in the tank ;Facepalm
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Tempered glass costs more than annealed. Tempering is a process that has to be done after the panels are cut to size and/or drilled. The manufacturer will know if the panels are tempered. If you don't want to ask then you can find out for yourself my using a pair of polarized sunglasses.
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Yea go figure... That sucks but I guess expected. And they aren't really to blame either. Just would be nice if it was a warranty issue.
From what I've read about low iron glass so far is that if it's used for say shower doors and panels they usually put a coating on it to help prevent things like this happening due to reaction with water and chemicals. Most probably non coated glass is used for aquariums.
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I am quite familiar with this particular tank manufacturer, and know a few people that own one, including low iron panels that are fine. Build quality, fit and finish is superb. I'd call them and have a chat. Perhaps there's an accommodation to be had.
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Sorry, your tank is double glazed? Never heard of a tank built like that.
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Must either be bullet proof or the most insulated glass tank you can buy!
(window industry humor)
I'm not sure if this is the cause but... I have 2 tanks, one glass (regular not low iron) and one acrylic. I used Magic Eraser for about 4 months because it was a miraculous cleaner for the algae. It was great on the glass but I think it made my acrylic start to get cloudy - or hazy. I can't be sure and no one else noticed it but I think it was changing the inside surface of my acrylic tank. Since Starfire or low iron is so much softer that regular glass, maybe the Magic Eraser has the same effect on it as on my acrylic tank. Anyone else have this experience?
And BTW, I had a company come out and buff out the scratches in one of my acrylic tanks. My tank was empty at the time but they mentioned that they can also do the work in a stocked reef tank. It doesn't have to be empty. If it is something like the Magic Eraser causing the problem, you might be able to get your tank buffed out. In my 100 gallon empty tank it cost me $300 for front and two side panels inside and outside. I'm near L.A. you might find it cheaper in other areas. Hopefully an option.
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Nah, this is complete different but thanks for your post. Magic erraser was used after the haze started for a few minutes and generally I have only seen glass become scratch from sand being stuck in a mag cleaner. Benefits of acrylic is you can buff out scratches and imperfections so nice to know you have the option of doing that every few years if needed.
The only thing I can do right now is dim my whites so more blue color shows (which I dislike), however I cant notice the haze as much with blue lighting so this is my only solution right now to look at my reef!
The only thing I can do right now is dim my whites so more blue color shows (which I dislike), however I cant notice the haze as much with blue lighting so this is my only solution right now to look at my reef!
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