Stock list after ich in my 150gal

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I unfortunately lost over half my fish to ich and my hippo tang is finally clearing up nicely after over 3 months. I plan to get a 57 or 80watt uv before trying any new fish. currently have the small hippo tang, marine Betta, yellow tang, chalk bass, 6-line wrasse, and 3 green chromis. I would like to add the following but not sure of order and if it's too much so I would like to hear opinions. sorry for the long post but future fish I've been considering...
3-6 lyretail anthias
3-6 ventralis anthias
Blue spot jawfish
Candy basslet
Regal angel
Goldflake or flame angel
~3 neon gobies
Mandarin
Pair of clowns
flame or McCoskers or green wrasse
 

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Did you go fallow? What's the new quarantine procedure after the ich? Is this a fowler? That seems like a lot of fish, seems like the green chromis might bully the anthias? What's the filtration like? That's probably the limiting factor for fish. Uv won't help with ich unfortunately, only fallow tank, copper or tank transfer method. Glad you're still here! I lost two small clowns due to some disease I didn't treat for in quarantine and almost had me packing!
 

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Did you go fallow? What's the new quarantine procedure after the ich? Is this a fowler? That seems like a lot of fish, seems like the green chromis might bully the anthias? What's the filtration like? That's probably the limiting factor for fish. Uv won't help with ich unfortunately, only fallow tank, copper or tank transfer method. Glad you're still here! I lost two small clowns due to some disease I didn't treat for in quarantine and almost had me packing!
My questions exactly.
 
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Did not fallow and it is a reef. UV will work for free floating ich. I plan a high watt uv and low flow through it. I have an in sump reef octopus skimmer. Looking for order of fish addition and which to maybe reconsider. I plan to run the UV for several weeks before adding any fish just trying to find one for a good price.
 

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I would say that the 6-line wrasse, and 3 green chromis are pretty aggressive, so whatever you choose you'll have to make sure the new additions are not bullied. I would pick the more aggressive anthias whichever version, and either a regal or pygmy angel, but not both. I would stay away from the mandarin unless you're fully confident in your pod production, I think most people probably over estimate their pods. But how much live rock do you have and how long has it been running? Typically people will wait a year and then still supplement mandarins diet with some live pods or make sure they're eating prepared foods, the red scooter blenny (captive bred by ORA) are a bit hardier than the typical psychedelic mandarin.

I would still strongly suggest setting up a quarantine tank for any new arrivals, if you're living with ich it's a crap shoot whether the newly introduced fish will survive the rough introduction by the green chromis and 6 line wrasse. Giving them some time in the quarantine can help fatten your new introductions up for the new tank.

I have a reef octopus skimmer, 5" 110 Int, but I've upgraded the pump to a newer DC pump with higher air volume. There are a lot of varieties in the reef octopus line, if your skimmer is rated for that many fish you may be fine (bulk reef supply has some good estimates), otherwise if you have an older aquatrance pump on it I'd consider getting either the bubble blaster or new DC pump which can increase your waste collection.
 

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The chromis won't be an issue with the anthias, though I would recommend against the ventralis, they are a very challenging species.

A sixline wrasse will behave aggressively toward a flame or mckosker wrasse.

A sixline wrasse will compete for pods with the mandarin. And a uv will stifle the spread of pods.

Blue spot jawfish do better in cooler temps, mid 60's to low 70's.

Two neon gobies will pr up and kill the third.

Regal and goldflake are coral eaters. The flame angel may nip at corals.
 
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Thank you for the replies!! Regarding the Mandarin, the tank has been set up since May and I did see a huge cluster of pods on the glass which I was shocked to see since that was the only time. I definitely plan to wait a while plus seed the tank with some additional pods. I bought the skimmer new about a year ago but don't remember the model off hand but thank you I will look into it. If I can convince the wife about a QT I may go that route but it's already there but I feel that stresses the fish. I plan to only buy these fish from a particular very reputable fish store.
 
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The chromis won't be an issue with the anthias, though I would recommend against the ventralis, they are a very challenging species.

A sixline wrasse will behave aggressively toward a flame or mckosker wrasse.

A sixline wrasse will compete for pods with the mandarin. And a uv will stifle the spread of pods.

Blue spot jawfish do better in cooler temps, mid 60's to low 70's.

Two neon gobies will pr up and kill the third.

Regal and goldflake are coral eaters. The flame angel may nip at corals.

I know the ventralis may be challenging and have done a bit of research on their care. I think getting the lyretail first maybe help them feel more safe.

The 6-line never bothered the flame I had before it came down with ich. I feel like their behaviors vary quite a bit but will take your warning thank you as well as with the pods.

I did not know own that about the neon gobies so thank you.

I've always loved blue spot jawfish yet somehow didn't know they liked it colder thank you will read about them more. I know know the ventralis also like it cooler. I currently keep my tank ~77 which may be too high for both.

Thanks for the comments!

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Sounds like you will be doing ick management. Good luck! I would fallow 72 days and QT every fish regardless of where you get them from.

I'm not about to rip apart my reef and still never catch all the fish.
 

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I hear you. I have a 160 lbs. of Pukani rock, with corals attached. Those rocks are huge and heavy. I spent hundred of dollars on snake oil remedies to vortex diatom filters, nothing worked. I didn't won't to tear my tank down it wasn't an easy task. But after months and months of dealing with the ick problem I couldn't take it anymore. It took 2 months to set up a QT and a holding tank to house the fish or 76 days. I had several tanks and filters from my fresh water days and only had to purchase a small protien skimmer. Like I said, I just got tired of the ick and I wanted my DT clean of all pest. I got thousands of dollars tied up in my set up and I want everything as close to perfection as possible. Just saying.
 

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