Tank crashed starting over

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  1. palvyre

    palvyre Valuable Member

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    After 3 years of build up and an algae bloom followed by use of the Vibrant product my tank crashed hard and wiped out pretty much everything. I stripped the whole thing down and cleaned all of it and set back up. All new sand DSB this time 6". Just ordered a feeding station to help make sure food doesn't end up in corners and rotting. Also greatly reduced the amount of rock to try and make it easier to clean. I lost all my fish and probably won't add any for a while. Trying to save my various zoas and my Duncan. If looks like about half the Duncan died, hoping the rest recovers.

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    MikeyTN Active Member MTRCMember

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    Sorry to hear about the crash....hopefully it's better this time around.
     
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    palvyre Valuable Member

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    Before the crash. IMG_0011.JPG
     
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    MikeyTN Active Member MTRCMember

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    I bet you were sick to your stomach when that happened. I know I would be.....
     
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    palvyre Valuable Member

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    Yeah :/
     
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    novajohn01 Well-Known Member MTRCMember

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    Hate to hear this
     
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    Sorry. Hope for a recovery!!
     
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    Bryn Active Member R2R Supporter MTRCMember

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    Vibrant, this is the tank cleaner product from Underwater Creations?
     
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    palvyre Valuable Member

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    Yeah. It killed all the algae in about 36 hours, but then the tank crashed.
     
  10. brandon429

    brandon429 why did you put a reef in that R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award

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    where is a pic of the algae infested mode with heavy biomass requiring that treatment (not in the one above/super sharp for sure)

    the reason I ask this, is we've killed likely double the amnt of algae present you've had in peroxide threads and never lost one. I know the crash happened, but sourcing it isn't easy sometimes. I rate vibrant/algae loss as the least likely cause of all possibles. algae doesn't hold a ton of stuff that is dangerous. plus the vibrant threads are out to 200 plug pages without repeat scenarios, crashes are harsh agreed but I think finding the cause is good tough science. indicators so far I feel aren't in line with algae death causing it just my opinion.

    we study tank crashes for nine pages in the sand rinse thread, curious to know if aged sandbed disturbance occurred at all
     
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    Bryn Active Member R2R Supporter MTRCMember

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    Really sorry to hear that. I played with a similar product but DIY, Vit C dosing, and it almost bit me.
     
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    ChiCity Valuable Member R2R Supporter

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    Vibrant is derived form very aggressive organisms used in waste treatment facilities...
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the OP might have accidentally overdid it with the vibrant, leading to complete stripping of nutrients in his system
     
  13. brandon429

    brandon429 why did you put a reef in that R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award

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    how would you make that not a statistical outlier given the size of the vibrant thread, and that's just one from here

    that assertion changes the etiology from algae loss, to direct vibrant poisoning.

    makes for neat sleuthing! keep the details coming. post the bad algae pic from the above tank


    we cured this much algae in tanks wo loss


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    full tank losses have been attributed to peroxide for sure, this is similar to whats claimed above with Vibrant. this is where giant web threads become invaluable, to see recurring patterns.

    was Vibrant used per the instructions, or accidentally 10x overdosed?
     
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  14. FLAdaboy

    FLAdaboy Well-Known Member R2R Supporter MTRCMember Reef Tank 365

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    Sorry to hear about your crash. If you want to make a trip out I’ll throw you a couple of frags to start your new reef.
     
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    palvyre Valuable Member

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    Probably. Over done a bit. I measured before, this time I just put a squirt in and another a day later.
     
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    brandon429 why did you put a reef in that R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award

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    well either way its a cool reboot. your rocks looks aged yet algae free ha for sure!

    new sand, that's a refresher too I just changed mine out two weeks ago. The duncans w tissue left I bet w slowly creep back out, nice save for sure. to have not used the rocks would be harsh, they're purple gold.
     
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    Some of the zoas are opening. The Duncan looks like it should mostly recover. 20180207_164714.jpg 20180207_164654.jpg 20180207_164631.jpg
     
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    palvyre Valuable Member

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    Bought a cool feeding station to help with food getting blown all over and a thermometer with a magnet. 20180207_164338.jpg 20180207_164324.jpg 20180207_164343.jpg
     
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    FLAdaboy Well-Known Member R2R Supporter MTRCMember Reef Tank 365

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    Try to run carbon and change out every couple of weeks. As far as nutrient control goes, have you considered biopellets or zeovit?
     
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    Mark Gray Valuable Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor Partner Member 2018

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    Wow sorry about your crash hope you corals come back
     
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