The Wrasse Lover's Thread!

[Cael Gallery]

Sorry for loss. Chasing is all it takes. Even just a hovering fish close by will stress and kill some wrasse quick. Also many won’t be aggressive with us by the tank

Yeah, but i was watching until the lights went out. So it would've happened under moonlights and none of my wrasses are active then so that's why i think it must've been the six bar angelfish.

 

[tbrown]

No, it's transitioning to a female. Females are the ones with the black and white checkerboard pattern and yellow on the tail and dorsal fin. Males would be at least 20cm+, and they are usually blue, green with pink lines.

I'm assuming it's a female transitioning to a male with the face lines coming in?

 

[Tcook]

Buick Grand National all the way!

See! You are a turbo guy.

 

[Cael Gallery]

I'm assuming it's a female transitioning to a male with the face lines coming in?

Nah it's a juvenile transitioning to female. Females do have lines on the face still. You can see it's still mostly in juvenile colours becauseit has that eye spot on the dorsal fin. I've attached a photo of a terminal phase H.hortulanus. If i had to guess the one in the picture is probably approaching a foot long

 

[ChiCity]

Buick Grand National all the way!

 

[tbrown]

I almost bought a Buick Regal Wagon converted to a Grand National 20 years ago. My father-in-law wouldn't let me buy it because his "grandkids will not be riding around in a car you're going to wrap around a tree".

 

[i cant think]

Nah it's a juvenile transitioning to female. Females do have lines on the face still. You can see it's still mostly in juvenile colours becauseit has that eye spot on the dorsal fin. I've attached a photo of a terminal phase H.hortulanus. If i had to guess the one in the picture is probably approaching a foot long

They’re more commonly duller, mostly appearing those colours if they’re “supermale” (a mature Terminal phase).

I have to say though, smaller wrasses are definitely nicer especially fairies ;)

 

[i cant think]

I love Twistii (especially the last pair I had) but I’ve got to say this choati baby is pretty exciting.

This girl came out briefly after I moved my clams - turns out she was sleeping right next to the blue Squamosa still. But I took the chance to feed and she fed on mysis!

 

[Crabby48]

 

[JoJosReef]

Once again confirming my belief that leopards are the best fish.

 

[Crabby48]

Once again confirming my belief that leopards are the best fish.

Shhhhhh, don’t let others know

 

[Cael Gallery]

Behold what i think is the most underrated wrasse species of all time. My chiseltooth wrasse, Pseudodax moluccanus. The first photo is from when i got it about 6-7 weeks ago in mostly juvenile colours. The other one is from last week, it's now full initial phase at around 2.5' or 6ish cm.

From day one it ate well on pellets, frozen and random bits of detritus that float around the tank including nori. It's very active and has a cool swimming motion that's very similar to Gomphosus and it stays in the top 2/3 of the tank. It's very peaceful and has never bothered another wrasse, but also seems very resitant to aggression itself. My A.neoguinacus that's the same size has chased it a small distance once before, but all of my larger wrasses, Halichoeres, coris, Thalassoma etc leave it alone.

They sleep in the sand and when they clock out for the night they dive straight in, head first. Not like most wrasses that dig themselves in. They're just like a little missile. There's a lot of glare in the room where my tank is so i can't get a good video of it, but the colours in real life are very nice. The body is a dark maroon-plum kind of colour. There are electric blue lines on the face and on the edges of the fins and of course there's the yellow tail. Later intial phases and males lighten signifcantly to a pale reddish-brown, which i think looks nice.
I really wish more people would keep these! I never see anyone with them.

 

[Krad]

Alright I got eveyone in a video I think lol, forgot to mention the carpenter! Firefish is slowly becoming a wrasse too as he swims with the group :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing:




Haven't seen much aggression so I am very happy, some chasing here and there but day 2 seems to have died down. Was usually the exquisite.

Big shout out to The Wrasse Guy and his compatibility chart!

So looks like the Labout and exquiste were chasing each other around a little bit and seems like they both got injured.

Replied to the video to show tank as of 12/22. Noticed the Labout missing on Christmas day and got him to come out during feeding but didn't look great, had a hard time swimming. Looked like a head injury but was hard to see under blue lights. He wont come out in full specturm.

Now yesterday the exquiste starting having troubles swimming with tail down and head up, rolling over as well. This morning did not look great, went crashing head down into the sand and hid away.

Looks like a spinal injury to me but wanted others to weigh in, rest of the wrasses and tank mates look great. Anything I can do to help them out? Im assuming the prognosis isn't great.

Thank you!

 

[Krad]

I was able to get the Exquiste to come out during a feeding:

Not sure what is protruding off his back fin there

 

[DCR]

Could also just be the Unknown Wrasse Neurological Disease (UWND) discussed by Jay Hemdal. I think a lot of apparent spinal injuries are actually UWND.

 

[Tcook]

Could also just be the Unknown Wrasse Neurological Disease (UWND) discussed by Jay Hemdal. I think a lot of apparent spinal injuries are actually UWND.

I agree. But that labouts has something else going on. Could just be in the last throngs of death but I would keep an eye on the other fish for flukes or velvet.

 

[Cael Gallery]

Need some advice here. The last couple days my 5-6' female Thalassoma lutescens has been acting weirdly. The first day i added it to my tank, about 6 days ago it got harassed by my T.quinquevittatum and T.nigrofasciatum and hid for most of the day in a cave. When i removed those 2 fish it came out and instantly seemed at home, it was eating well, swimming around comfortably and actively and got along with the rest of the fish aside from occasionally chasing the smaller wrasses away from the masstick i have recently been trying.
I also then removed my six bar angel which was really the last aggressive fish in the tank and everything seemed really good. I then treated the tank with prazipro as there's been a minor fluke problem in the tank that never seems to go away despite pretty much weekly prazi doses. I dose 1.5x the reccomended dose, leave it for 12-24 hours and then put my UV on, then the next day my skimmer back on. It's a risk leaving the UV off longer because my maculosus angel and declivis butterfly get a few spots at that point. I don't see any of the major symptoms like cloudy eyes, but even a couple days after the treatment my fish start flashing against rocks again. Maybe it's not flukes or the flukes are immune to prazi.
Anyway, when i dosed prazi the lutescens started hiding but came out the next morning and ate, but then hid again. But even after the UV and skimmer were put back on and the prazi should've been gone, it has been hiding most of the day and not really eating. It occasionally comes out but only when another fish enters the cave and it leaves. It'll eat a bit of mysis or whatever and either go back to hiding, or it'll swim directly in front of my powerhead for a few minutes but not around the rest of the tank. There's no bullying whatsoever aside from my sailfin occasionally chasing my declivis or between the maculosus and sailfin. This morning it was hiding in some rocks in the central part of the tank instead of the usual cave, it's head was poking out. I added some pellets and all the other fish started eating but he wouldn't budge. Physically it looks perfect, no torn fins, good colouration, bright eyes, even a little fat and it might be starting to transition since i can see a tinge of green coming through on the body.
I'm really worried since i had another male T.nigrofasciatum about a month ago. I added it to the tank and it hid for a few hours, then came out later that day to swim around and eat. Everything was going well but i didn't see it the next day. Then the day after that i found it just dead in a cave. Zero marks, zero injuries and there was no bullying at all. Just dead. And i'm really worried something like that is going to happen again.
Should i just leave it and hope it comes right?

Here's a photo of it this morning:

 

[Slocke]

Could it be cyanide collection?

 

[Cael Gallery]

Could it be cyanide collection?

No, i'm in Australia so that isn't used here. Thalassoma are collected with barrier nets in Australia

 

[Tcook]

Hate to stress the fish but if you catch it maybe consider a temperature matched tap water bath. Any eye symptoms in any of the fish? You mentioned chronic flukes. Neobenedenia? Maybe other internal parasites.