Thinking about upgrading to a 165+ gallon reef tank

[DeadEnd]

Thinking about upgrading to a 165+ gallon tank.
Wanted to ask, what brands would you recommend for large displays?
Any favorites or brands to avoid?

Are the Red Sea G2s still experiencing problems, or have they addressed the earlier concerns?

Would appreciate any insights or personal experiences!

Thanks

 

[thelonereefer1]

Planet aquariums. Class cages. Innovative marine have typically been my go to brands over the last 20 years . I’ve heard good things about waterbox and Cade but have no personal experience with those

 

[Waters]

I love my large Cade (well built, nice stands) but they are definately expensive. I think the only brand I would avoid is Red Sea.

 

[DeadEnd]

Planet aquariums. Class cages. Innovative marine have typically been my go to brands over the last 20 years . I’ve heard good things about waterbox and Cade but have no personal experience with those

I was looking at the Innovative Marine tanks, but they have a 30 inch depth. Where I want to place the tank, I really need to stay around 24 inches...

I read that people are having issues with their waterbox aquariums.

The glass cages look nice! Anyone has experience with them?

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/72-r...ium-w-black-stand-180-gallons-glasscages.html

I love my large Cade (well built, nice stands) but they are definately expensive. I think the only brand I would avoid is Red Sea.

Yeah... def expensive lol

 

[exnisstech]

What issues are us WB owners experiencing? I have a 330.7 I looked at cade but the built on the back ato reservoir was a deal breaker because I wanted 30" front to back depth. I came from 180g with 24" front to back and highly recommend the 30" if you can fit it. It's so much nicer to scape. In a 24" i had to put rock against the back wall and fish swam back and forth in front. With the 30" i have the rock away from the wall so there are two swim lanes and the fish seem to appreciate it. For custom I would go glass cages. I almost did but decided I didn't want to diy the plumbing and such so I went with WB.
I really like my redsea tanks. This is my reefer 170 in it's current state :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing:

 

[DeadEnd]

What issues are us WB owners experiencing? I have a 330.7 I looked at cade but the built on the back ato reservoir was a deal breaker because I wanted 30" front to back depth. I came from 180g with 24" front to back and highly recommend the 30" if you can fit it. It's so much nicer to scape. In a 24" i had to put rock against the back wall and fish swam back and forth in front. With the 30" i have the rock away from the wall so there are two swim lanes and the fish seem to appreciate it. For custom I would go glass cages. I almost did but decided I didn't want to diy the plumbing and such so I went with WB.
I really like my redsea tanks. This is my reefer 170 in it's current state :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing:

I read that WB has been having some leak issues, so I’ll need to do a bit more research.

I’m not going to lie... I would love to have 30” front to back depth, but to make it work, I would have to place the tank just 1” from the wall. My current tank is 24” deep and it’s sitting about 4” away from the wall and it's almost at the limit of my space.

Lol I love what you did with your RS. It looks so natural

 

[exnisstech]

Ya 1 inch would be tight. I like to be able to get my hands behind the tanks. Seems there always a bit of compromise when upsizing. I really wanted to go 8 ft but ended up with 7.

Lol I love what you did with your RS. It looks so natural

One down and one to go lol. Still have a Reefer 300 running but keeping my fingers crossed it holds up. Its full of acros that are doing well and I'm not looking forward to having to break it down.

 

[edsbeaker]

There are a lot of great reviews for Glass Cages. They are more custom, so you will be able to get the dimensions you want. I have an IM 170 that is great, but like you said, their larger tanks all seem to be that 30” depth.

As already mentioned, but I’ll put more !!!!!…stay away from Red Sea.

 

[DeadEnd]

Ya 1 inch would be tight. I like to be able to get my hands behind the tanks. Seems there always a bit of compromise when upsizing. I really wanted to go 8 ft but ended up with 7.

Yeah, I just measured and the max I can do is 2 inches. I believe that is still considered tight

One down and one to go lol. Still have a Reefer 300 running but keeping my fingers crossed it holds up. Its full of acros that are doing well and I'm not looking forward to having to break it down.

That would be a PIA...

By the way, the IM plumbing is not Euro, right? I had to do some crazy stuff on my current tank (Pro clear Prostar 150) to install a new sump...

 

[exnisstech]

Sorry i didn't mention it my IM is an AIO

 

[Harpo]

What about miracles? I love mine

 

[DeadEnd]

What about miracles? I love mine

Never heard about them before. I just sent them a message.

 

[KQuillan]

I like the IM tanks.

 

[DeadEnd]

I like the IM tanks.

Yeah, I like the IM tanks but I am leaning towards Waterbox because of the front to back depth

 

[DeadEnd]

Well, I went to check out some tanks at my LFS. I got to see the Red Sea S-Series with the euro brace... the store swears by it, but honestly, I still don't trust it…

So I’m back to deciding between the Waterbox 230 and the Innovative Marine 200 INT.

I think I can make the 30" front-to-back depth work. It would leave me about 39" of walking space behind the sofa, which I feel should be more than enough.

If anyone has any last input before I pull the trigger, I'd love to hear it!

Also, quick question, I have a 40-gallon sump already. Would that be enough for the Waterbox, which has a 167-gallon display?