Treating Sailfin and Longnose

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Just picked up a sailfin & longnose hawk at the LFS. Any suggestions on the best way to treat these guys? 1 week observation, 30 day copper then 2 weeks of internal parasites?
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If your desire is to quarantine , copper safe will be safest and be sure to have a reliable copper test kit to monitor levels. Your goal is 2.0- 2.25
Monitor also their eating and breathing habits
 
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If your desire is to quarantine , copper safe will be safest and be sure to have a reliable copper test kit to monitor levels. Your goal is 2.0- 2.25
Monitor also their eating and breathing habits
Perfect, would you proactively treat? I have a CU hanna checker and just did 14 days of copper for velvet on another fish in a separate quarantine so I’m not used to longer treatment cycles.
 

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Perfect, would you proactively treat? I have a CU hanna checker and just did 14 days of copper for velvet on another fish in a separate quarantine so I’m not used to longer treatment cycles.
Yes and to get a second agreement on this . . . . . @Jay Hemdal
 

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I prefer coppersafe for 30 days all told. I usually only wait 72 hours after getting the fish before getting the copper up to full dose (in two 50% doses, just to check my calculations). Two issues I see a lot here is people observing their fish with no preventative treatment for a week or tow and then dosing copper and dosing copper incrementally, over five days or so. Both of these errors can allow a disease to gain a foothold and coppersafe, while very mild, is much better at preventing disease than for curing severe infections.

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I prefer coppersafe for 30 days all told. I usually only wait 72 hours after getting the fish before getting the copper up to full dose (in two 50% doses, just to check my calculations). Two issues I see a lot here is people observing their fish with no preventative treatment for a week or tow and then dosing copper and dosing copper incrementally, over five days or so. Both of these errors can allow a disease to gain a foothold and coppersafe, while very mild, is much better at preventing disease than for curing severe infections.

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So do a 50% dose then the other half after 24 hours?
Edited: Just saw that you said 50% dose, test, then the other half. Got it, thank you!
 
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Would you only do a copper treatment? I was thinking of feeding a mix of mysis, brine and nori with metroplex + kanaplex + focus for 7-14 days. would this be advisable or pointless?
Coppersafe only at least now. Feed spirulina brine if you can as well as other herbivore diets and add both selcon and garlic extracts to the foods alternating during the week for stamina and immunity health
 
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Coppersafe only at least now. Feed spirulina brine if you can as well as other herbivore diets and add both selcon and garlic extracts to the foods alternating during the week for stamina and immunity health
Sounds like a plan. any reliable brands for garlic & selcon extract? thank you.
 

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