Triton Base ElementZ dilution

[gregoryleonard]

Just ordered my Base ElementZ and had a question about dilution. The website says 1 bottle with 9 liters for part 1 &2, and both 3A and 3b in 8 liters.
Can you do 1/2 bottle per 4.5 liters or does Triton recommend using the entire bottle for whatever reason. Just want to make sure I do it correctly and I am using 1 gallon containers, so I wanted to mix enough for the containers I already have and not have to get 2.5 gallon containers if not needed.

 

[joefishUC]

Hello Gregory. Although the dilution you stated will work, the proper way to dilute the 4 parts is to keep all parts separate and not combine parts 3a and 3b. Dilute part 2, 3a and 3b each in their own 9 liter reservoirs and keep the solutions sealed in containers for refilling your dosing containers. Part 1, which is in solid form gets completely dissolved the same quantity of water. By mixing 3a and 3b together in a concentrated 10 liter total solution, the concentrated mixture can wreak havoc on the dosing tubing as it allows crystals to form resulting in increased maintenance. The guys in the UK dilute everything individually and store them in them in 3 gallon pails or containers then scoop out liquid to fill their dosing containers when they are running low. In theory you can only mix small portions (half portions like you intend to do) and dilute the balance when needed but if you do this, just make sure everything is properly stirred, not shaken, prior to using. Again, the recommended way is to mix everything to ensure proper dilution of all elements.

 

[Fishinwall]

Well this is the first I've seen "stirred not shaken". That would have been nice to know.... Too late, hope it doesn't matter much.

 

[d2mini]

I'm confused on the wording from the Unique Corals website...

"Part 1 is in granular form while parts 2, 3A and 3B are liquids each contained in 1 liter bottles. Mix part 2, 3A and 3B with 9 liters of RO/DI water each and always keep them seperate. Then mix part 1 into its own solution of RO/DI water to match the volume of the other 3 solutions. The amount of RO water needed to match the other 3 containers is approx 9.66 liters."

What is different about part 1 compared to the others???
Aren't they all mixed with 8 liters of water each?

 

[Fishinwall]

I'm confused on the wording from the Unique Corals website...

"Part 1 is in granular form while parts 2, 3A and 3B are liquids each contained in 1 liter bottles. Mix part 2, 3A and 3B with 9 liters of RO/DI water each and always keep them seperate. Then mix part 1 into its own solution of RO/DI water to match the volume of the other 3 solutions. The amount of RO water needed to match the other 3 containers is approx 9.66 liters."

What is different about part 1 compared to the others???
Aren't they all mixed with 8 liters of water each?

Since part one is a powder the amount of water is different but you can match it to the other parts' volume once you have them mixed.

 

[d2mini]

Since part one is a powder the amount of water is different but you can match it to the other parts' volume once you have them mixed.

Ahhhhh, right right right. Thanks!

 

[joefishUC]

I'm confused on the wording from the Unique Corals website...

"Part 1 is in granular form while parts 2, 3A and 3B are liquids each contained in 1 liter bottles. Mix part 2, 3A and 3B with 9 liters of RO/DI water each and always keep them seperate. Then mix part 1 into its own solution of RO/DI water to match the volume of the other 3 solutions. The amount of RO water needed to match the other 3 containers is approx 9.66 liters."

What is different about part 1 compared to the others???
Aren't they all mixed with 8 liters of water each?

Part 1 is granular so it takes more liquid to reach the same volume as the t

Ahhhhh, right right right. Thanks!

Be sure to mix each part with 9 liters not 8. The only time you would do 8 liters is if you were combining parts 3a and 3b into a single solution which we don't recommend doing.

 

[d2mini]

Be sure to mix each part with 9 liters not 8. The only time you would do 8 liters is if you were combining parts 3a and 3b into a single solution which we don't recommend doing.

Yes, sorry... i meant to say 9. Thanks! :)

 

[Fishinwall]

I haven't had any problems with crystallizing when mixing A and B together. I think the key is making sure A is fully mixed well before adding B

 

[sheldonjjessup]

Hello Gregory. Although the dilution you stated will work, the proper way to dilute the 4 parts is to keep all parts separate and not combine parts 3a and 3b. Dilute part 2, 3a and 3b each in their own 9 liter reservoirs and keep the solutions sealed in containers for refilling your dosing containers. Part 1, which is in solid form gets completely dissolved the same quantity of water. By mixing 3a and 3b together in a concentrated 10 liter total solution, the concentrated mixture can wreak havoc on the dosing tubing as it allows crystals to form resulting in increased maintenance. The guys in the UK dilute everything individually and store them in them in 3 gallon pails or containers then scoop out liquid to fill their dosing containers when they are running low. In theory you can only mix small portions (half portions like you intend to do) and dilute the balance when needed but if you do this, just make sure everything is properly stirred, not shaken, prior to using. Again, the recommended way is to mix everything to ensure proper dilution of all elements.

I am just starting to investigate the Triton method for my office build. So when dosing should I be looking at four pumps, all of them separate, or 3 combining the 2 (a,b) into the final third dosing container?

Again thanks for any clarification.

 

[gpwdr]

four dosing pumps - four solutions

 

[gpwdr]

What is the best way to mix Elementz #1?

It takes 3 to 4 days for the solution to mix.

What do you think about using a quart of hot water making a slurry and then adding room temperature water to make the 10 liters?

 

[sheldonjjessup]

four dosing pumps - four solutions

Ok great thanks.

 

[joefishUC]

I am just starting to investigate the Triton method for my office build. So when dosing should I be looking at four pumps, all of them separate, or 3 combining the 2 (a,b) into the final third dosing container?

Again thanks for any clarification.

People can mix 3a and 3b and typically be ok but due to the issues some people have with crystallization either in the mixing container or in the dosing lines, (probably from mixing issues) Triton has adopted the official stance of recommending 4 separate solutions. This is mainly in the pursuit to have an easy to follow method for the masses to replicate with success while minimizing any ***** traps.

 

[joefishUC]

I am just starting to investigate the Triton method for my office build. So when dosing should I be looking at four pumps, all of them separate, or 3 combining the 2 (a,b) into the final third dosing container?

Again thanks for any clarification.

People can mix 3a and 3b and typically be ok but due to the issues some people have with crystallization either in the mixing container or in the dosing lines, (probably from mixing issues) Triton has adopted the official stance of recommending 4 separate solutions. This is mainly in the pursuit to have an easy to follow method for the masses to replicate with success while minimizing any ***** traps.

 

[joefishUC]

What is the best way to mix Elementz #1?

It takes 3 to 4 days for the solution to mix.

What do you think about using a quart of hot water making a slurry and then adding room temperature water to make the 10 liters?

Try it and let us know how it goes :). As long as Ro/DI water is used I don't see a problem with it. Just account for lost water through increased rate of evaporation.

 

[Psi]

JoefishUC - Did you find a better way to get Element 1 to dissolve? I'm just starting Triton and have encountered the same problem.