Triton dosage

[Triggreef]

I'd just like to see everyone's experience after starting your initial dose. I know every tank is different but just wondering if you started right on at 10ml per 25g or if you strayed from that amount when you started. Also did you have to go up or down, and maybe a little info about your tank size and stocking.

I started slightly lower only because I wouldn't consider my tank heavily stocked since I crashed my acros.

 

[Keithcorals]

I started at 100ml a day in my 180 gal system and will have to increase the dose. I'm not a good example right now though because I had a bit of a snafu a week or so before I started doesing. My alk was raised to 10 over a few days and my coral (almost all SPS) didn't like it. The demand for two part in my system before the spike was around 200ml a day of C-Balance and after I droped it to 100ml per day to allow the alk level to go back to 8 I started using the triton 4 part at an alk of around 8.9 and it has gone down over the last few days to about 8. At this point I'll start increasing it to get a stable alk of 8. Would have been a better test if the tank hadent had the alk spike before starting the triton 4part but it's looking like at if I wanted to start at the same dosage as the C-Balance I was using it wouldn't have been a problem. I'll post my changes as I make them if that helps

 

[kidtango]

Hey Keith,

How long do you think each pack of solution will last for the current demand for your tank? Even at 200ml, that's about 50 days? Is that overall cheaper for you than using the traditional method of supplements?

I am also in the process of starting my dosage. I think the key is to test twice a day if possible. That's what I am going to do to allow for minimal disruption to my tank. Adjust as we go. I am freaking excited! Can't wait to start.

Keep posting your experience and results please.

Kid

I started at 100ml a day in my 180 gal system and will have to increase the dose. I'm not a good example right now though because I had a bit of a snafu a week or so before I started doesing. My alk was raised to 10 over a few days and my coral (almost all SPS) didn't like it. The demand for two part in my system before the spike was around 200ml a day of C-Balance and after I droped it to 100ml per day to allow the alk level to go back to 8 I started using the triton 4 part at an alk of around 8.9 and it has gone down over the last few days to about 8. At this point I'll start increasing it to get a stable alk of 8. Would have been a better test if the tank hadent had the alk spike before starting the triton 4part but it's looking like at if I wanted to start at the same dosage as the C-Balance I was using it wouldn't have been a problem. I'll post my changes as I make them if that helps

 

[Keithcorals]

I think but can't say for sure right now the triton 4 part may be a little less concentrated after being mixed than most two parts (right now this is based only on there being no alk cloud if the alk part of the 4 part is poured into saltwater). It's hard to say for sure but if this is true and the concentration is almost half what I was using I could go through it in around a month when all my SPS are happy. This is partly because I have a 3 1/2 foot long 1 foot tall sunset monti growing on the back glass. I'm going to sell it off over the next few weeks with the hope of lowering the demand of 4 part in my system. It looks like the extra cost relatively speaking will be pretty minimal even if I have to use twice as much. I think compared to my old 2 part it at most will run an extra $20-30 a month but if I reduces the demand by removing some of my big montis it should be in the same ballpark I was in before.

 

[kidtango]

Sweet. Thanks for answering. Now u don't have to do water changes n etc. That should come out a bit better. But it is good to know we don't have to spend more to do things better.

 

[Keithcorals]

I didn't do water changes before so not much a of change for me :)

 

[kidtango]

Cool! Haha

 

[gpwdr]

120 gallons of water
10% stocked with SPS & LPS

12/19
Start Dosage Removal
34/34/34/34ml 62ml

1/5
78/78/78/78ml 142ml

I use 5 dosing pumps, 4 for elementz dosing and one for removal of tank water as per the Triton Method Calculator.


This is the structure of Base Elementz from the Triton Manual.

26% Care/supply macro algae
12% Care/supply microorganisms
11% Care/supply bacteria
6% Care/supply mollusks and crustaceans
10% Care/supply other invertebrates
11% Stabilizers and complexing agents
14% Care/supply coral skeletal systems NaHCO3; CaCI2; Mg.
10% Additional care/supply skeletal systems KHCO3; Sr; Ba; Be; Cr; Li; V.

​

 

[Vmacisback]

anyone dosing Elementz with out using the "method"? Just as normal 3 part dosing?

 

[1mbrews8]

have heard a bunch about this recently so here to learn before doing lol! GL!

 

[gregoryleonard]

Did a water analysis in late October and had to do four weekly 15% water changes per Triton's error correction suggestions to dilute some high readings of Lithium and higher than desired Po4 (did these with RC) and tank looked better already immediately after the fourth water change. After that I focused on getting Ak down to 8.0 so I could start the Four part ElementZ dosing (go to Triton FB site for precise dilution instructions of the 4 part ElementZ). I stopped dosing 2 part (Randy Holmes Farley's recipe) and started dosing Elementz with 4 BRS peristallic pumps (1.1 ml per minute). I started with 115 ml of each of the 4 parts and tested AK every eve at the same time to make sure I did not have a drastic swing in AK (up or down). I had to decrease the dosage down to 100 ml of each due to a slight elevation in AK. Evidently Part 1 of Elementz is more concentrated than the AK recipe I was using, because the pumps are on almost half the time, so that's a good thing. At this rate of consumption the 4 part Elementz should last for 90+ days. I have seen some nice improvements in my corals (mixed reef) and many SPSs are coloring up nicely. Not just since I started the 4 part dosing last week, but since mid November when I started incorporating the Triton method and initial corrections to my 1st water analysis. I will send in another water analysis at the end of Jan (1 month after starting 4 part dosing) to see where my params are at that point. I have not done a WC in 30 days and I am keeping my Alk as close to 8.0 while dialing in the Elementz.

 

[Triggreef]

anyone dosing Elementz with out using the "method"? Just as normal 3 part dosing?

I'm not fully on the "method" as I have always run skimmerless and have no plans to change that. I use denitrators instead of skimmers. I also am dosing as a 3 part instead of 4 part (mixed the 3a and 3b with double the water). Since my 3a and 3b is double diluted, I'm dosing twice as much. In hopes of avoiding clogging the lines, the common problem apparently with mixing the 3a and 3b.

I'm sure I have other things that are not the same as the full "triton method" in fact I'm probly not even close to it, but I'm using the elementz.

 

[Triggreef]

I'm not a good example right now though because I had a bit of a snafu a week or so before I started doesing. My alk was raised to 10 over a few days and my coral (almost all SPS) didn't like it.

I had a similar mishap. While I switched to the triton elements and reprogrammed all my apex outlets, I somehow left the part 1 dosing outlet with "Set ON" instead of off, and so that pump ran for several hours before I caught it. Spiked my alk to 10dkh from 8.4 where I usually keep it. I estimate about 500 ml of part 1. For now I'm just turning off part 1 to let it drop alk a bit, then I'll resume the part 1 with the rest. I'm not too worried since I'm down to almost no acros now. Monti and stylos don't seem to care about anything.

 

[Keithcorals]

My SPS didn't fare so well but the birds best and the stylos were the worst. I lost almost all my stylos and most of my birds nests. Things seem to be leveling out now but this is the worst loses I've had in years. One of the birds nest I lost I had for 7 years.

 

[acromike]

I dont follow triton exactly., I have a 500 gallon system. I havent done a water change since I followed the recommendations from my index triton test 90 days ago. I am dosing all of the 4 elementz. i dont use dosing pumps. I cant afford them and frankly, I dont trust them. Too much can go wrong. I have seen several people fry their tanks even using apex to control. I am keeping my calcium reactor online. I dialed the calcium reactor all the way down. I am dosing 200ml of all elementz once daily by hand. I measure my alk. My alk ranges between 7 and 8.5 if the alk is 8.5 I do not dose element 1 that day. I dose 200ml on a 500 gallon system by hand once daily. Each 200ml goes into a different area of the system. 200ml in frag tank, 200ml in sump, 200ml in my 120 gallon refugium etc. I am having great success. My corals have never looked better.

 

[Vmacisback]

I dont follow triton exactly., I have a 500 gallon system. I havent done a water change since I followed the recommendations from my index triton test 90 days ago. I am dosing all of the 4 elementz. i dont use dosing pumps. I cant afford them and frankly, I dont trust them. Too much can go wrong. I have seen several people fry their tanks even using apex to control. I am keeping my calcium reactor online. I dialed the calcium reactor all the way down. I am dosing 200ml of all elementz once daily by hand. I measure my alk. My alk ranges between 7 and 8.5 if the alk is 8.5 I do not dose element 1 that day. I dose 200ml on a 500 gallon system by hand once daily. Each 200ml goes into a different area of the system. 200ml in frag tank, 200ml in sump, 200ml in my 120 gallon refugium etc. I am having great success. My corals have never looked better.

Nice thats good news!

 

[Triggreef]

My SPS didn't fare so well but the birds best and the stylos were the worst. I lost almost all my stylos and most of my birds nests. Things seem to be leveling out now but this is the worst loses I've had in years. One of the birds nest I lost I had for 7 years.

That really sucks Keith. I have followed many of your threads and you really seem to have a great handle on everything reef. Just goes to show it happens to the best of us. Hopefully your trouble with the alk spike is over and your onto recovery. I know sometimes it can go down hill for weeks though. Good luck.

One great thing about these forums and clubs is there's usually some locals who are happy to help restock. I've already had a few friends off frags of several acros I lost, I'm just not comfy adding anything back yet.


As for mine (alk spike) I probably should have left the part 1 dosing a lesser amount. In only 2 days my alk dropped back down to 8.4 so I resumed dosing part 1 tonight. Meanwhile my Ca went from 410 to about 490 in those 2 days as well. So I'm going to need to really keep a close eye. Mg has never been better though, I had 1400 on day 1 and 2. Dosing c-balance I was generally around 1200 regularly.

 

[dgrigor02]

Nevermind.

 

[kidtango]

****. That does suck. This is why we all need to have groups of reef buddies to share frags with when possible. I got awesome pieces that I would hate to lose. Wish you both the best n a speedy recovery. :)

 

[Rjedreski]

So I have 100 gallon reef heavy coral and fish . Was using 3 part bionics - 80ml alk & cal 60 ml mag. 8.1 ph ,9 dkh , 440 cal, 1380 mag . Switched
To triton 4 part started at recommended 40 ml of each and my ph crashed to 7.2 ,alk below 7 and cal 380 increase all up to about
80 ml triton results still poor went 90ml on 1&2 left 3&4 around 60 still ph down at 7.7 and allk at 7.2 cal 380 . Couldn't take it went back to bionics
And everything back up to normal. Not sure what to do . Anybody experience same thing ?