Unbelievably high Phosphates

Rowboman

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Jun 11, 2022
Messages
81
Reaction score
56
Location
The Dalles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
So last night I did my weekly phosphate test and got a reading of 0.5. This is over 3 times the highest reading I’ve ever had on this tank!! I normally run under 0.1 and actually have to dose phosphates and nitrates occasionally because they tend to bottom out. I added GFO to
My carbon reactor, did my weekly 15% water change, and tested again today. I read 2.3!!!!! This is measured with a Hanna Low Range checker (not the better ULR). Is it possible my checkers malfunctioning? None of my corals, including my acros, seem worse for wear which seems impossible at a ppm of 2.3

Parameters
DKh=7.5 (apparently my kalk doser hose fell off so it didn’t dose for a day and a half. Currently fixing that slowly because I usually run 9 dKh)

Salinity 1.026

Nitrate=10.2 ppm

Calcium=436

Magnesium=1450

Temp=77.5-78
 

Big G

captain dunsel
View Badges
Joined
Jun 8, 2017
Messages
12,921
Reaction score
27,288
Location
Southern Oregon
Rating - 0%
0   0   0

Quietman

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
May 14, 2017
Messages
3,264
Reaction score
10,873
Location
Indiana - born and bred
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
There's also this https://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-01/rhf/index.php#15 from RHF. Kalkwasser will precipitate out phosphate so it might have been indicator of kalk issue and not another problem. Regardless, I'd fix the kalk and alkalinity then see where you are before trying other fixes.
 
OP
OP
Rowboman

Rowboman

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Jun 11, 2022
Messages
81
Reaction score
56
Location
The Dalles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Before taking action, you may want to read this excellent article by @Randy Holmes-Farley

I actually already read it but thanks. It’s part of the reason I didn’t panic about the 0.5 ppm reading last night since I had just fed reef roids before testing and figured the residual food was still in the water column throwing off the test. But unless I dumped a lb of reef roids in the 2.3 ppm reading doesn’t add up
 
OP
OP
Rowboman

Rowboman

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Jun 11, 2022
Messages
81
Reaction score
56
Location
The Dalles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
There's also this https://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-01/rhf/index.php#15 from RHF. Kalkwasser will precipitate out phosphate so it might have been indicator of kalk issue and not another problem. Regardless, I'd fix the kalk and alkalinity then see where you are before trying other fixes.
That’s actually super interesting and might help explain the growing algae problems I was having in weeks prior to this despite fairly low phosphate levels. But my Ph also dropped from its normal 8.3 to 8.0 when the kalk doser stopped working, which according to that article could lead to the phosphate bound up in the substrate leaching back into the water column
 

Placenta89

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Sep 22, 2021
Messages
152
Reaction score
156
Location
Barrie
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
So last night I did my weekly phosphate test and got a reading of 0.5. This is over 3 times the highest reading I’ve ever had on this tank!! I normally run under 0.1 and actually have to dose phosphates and nitrates occasionally because they tend to bottom out. I added GFO to
My carbon reactor, did my weekly 15% water change, and tested again today. I read 2.3!!!!! This is measured with a Hanna Low Range checker (not the better ULR). Is it possible my checkers malfunctioning? None of my corals, including my acros, seem worse for wear which seems impossible at a ppm of 2.3

Parameters
DKh=7.5 (apparently my kalk doser hose fell off so it didn’t dose for a day and a half. Currently fixing that slowly because I usually run 9 dKh)

Salinity 1.026

Nitrate=10.2 ppm

Calcium=436

Magnesium=1450

Temp=77.5-78
 
OP
OP
Rowboman

Rowboman

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Jun 11, 2022
Messages
81
Reaction score
56
Location
The Dalles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
So last night I did my weekly phosphate test and got a reading of 0.5. This is over 3 times the highest reading I’ve ever had on this tank!! I normally run under 0.1 and actually have to dose phosphates and nitrates occasionally because they tend to bottom out. I added GFO to
My carbon reactor, did my weekly 15% water change, and tested again today. I read 2.3!!!!! This is measured with a Hanna Low Range checker (not the better ULR). Is it possible my checkers malfunctioning? None of my corals, including my acros, seem worse for wear which seems impossible at a ppm of 2.3

Parameters
DKh=7.5 (apparently my kalk doser hose fell off so it didn’t dose for a day and a half. Currently fixing that slowly because I usually run 9 dKh)

Salinity 1.026

Nitrate=10.2 ppm

Calcium=436

Magnesium=1450

Temp=77.5-78
Update

Fixed the kalk doser and got my Ph back up to 8.3 and 9 dKh. Phosphates dropped down to 0.14 within a day. Apparently it was caused by the sudden loss of kalkwasser in the tank ‍♂️
 

Placenta89

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Sep 22, 2021
Messages
152
Reaction score
156
Location
Barrie
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I got the same issue , 0.34 po4 tested this morning. I'm going through so much rowaphos and large water changes I can't seem to get it below 0.22. Did a couple 80% w/c and it reset a diatom bloom and then phosphate keeps going up and up. Highest its gone so far is 0.5. Doing 33% water changes weekly now. I'm assuming the rock and sand have a ton of leeching and hope one day it will level out.. So far no coral stress and everything is happy for the time. Skimmer running 24/7 and chaeto chamber lights on 20 hours a day. Got nO3 down to 5ppm as it was almost at 25 last month. Thank God that guy posted those links because it calmed me down.
 

Garf

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 23, 2020
Messages
5,093
Reaction score
5,924
Location
BEEFINGHAM
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I got the same issue , 0.34 po4 tested this morning. I'm going through so much rowaphos and large water changes I can't seem to get it below 0.22. Did a couple 80% w/c and it reset a diatom bloom and then phosphate keeps going up and up. Highest its gone so far is 0.5. Doing 33% water changes weekly now. I'm assuming the rock and sand have a ton of leeching and hope one day it will level out.. So far no coral stress and everything is happy for the time. Skimmer running 24/7 and chaeto chamber lights on 20 hours a day. Got nO3 down to 5ppm as it was almost at 25 last month. Thank God that guy posted those links because it calmed me down.
This is a good vid;
 
OP
OP
Rowboman

Rowboman

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Jun 11, 2022
Messages
81
Reaction score
56
Location
The Dalles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I got the same issue , 0.34 po4 tested this morning. I'm going through so much rowaphos and large water changes I can't seem to get it below 0.22. Did a couple 80% w/c and it reset a diatom bloom and then phosphate keeps going up and up. Highest its gone so far is 0.5. Doing 33% water changes weekly now. I'm assuming the rock and sand have a ton of leeching and hope one day it will level out.. So far no coral stress and everything is happy for the time. Skimmer running 24/7 and chaeto chamber lights on 20 hours a day. Got nO3 down to 5ppm as it was almost at 25 last month. Thank God that guy posted those links because it calmed me down.
Out of curiosity, what’s your pH run at?
 
Back
Top