Vodka dosing

[Sams reef]

Hello
I want to ask if it is okay tho use ethanol 99.5% denatured with brusine to make vodka 40% and dose in my reef?
This is tha analysis

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I do not know the effect of brusine on marine organisms.

It does concern me:

Brucine is an alkaloid closely related to strychnine, most commonly found in the Strychnos nux-vomica tree. Brucine poisoning is rare, since it is usually ingested with strychnine, and strychnine is more toxic than brucine.

 

[Sams reef]

I do not know the effect of brusine on marine organisms.

It does concern me:

Brucine is an alkaloid closely related to strychnine, most commonly found in the Strychnos nux-vomica tree. Brucine poisoning is rare, since it is usually ingested with strychnine, and strychnine is more toxic than brucine.

I am adding it with acetic acid 99.5% that i make from it vinegar 5% for two months and corals looks good enough till now also parameters po4 0-0.06 in my 3000 liter tanks. Now when i get the analysis I am afraid that i am poisoning my tanks slowly. I tried just vinegar alone but it took long time with no success.
Before i used to use bio pellets but it was hard to me to get the po4 less than 0.1

 

[Dan_P]

Hello
I want to ask if it is okay tho use ethanol 99.5% denatured with brusine to make vodka 40% and dose in my reef?
This is tha analysis

If brusine is brucine, i.e. strychnine, I am interested in where you obtained this alcohol.

 

[Sams reef]

If brusine is brucine, i.e. strychnine, I am interested in where you obtained this alcohol.

Where you see that this have strychninein it

 

[Dan_P]

Where you see that this have strychninein it

Sorry, I should have said a compound like strychnine.

So, where did this ethanol come from?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I am adding it with acetic acid 99.5% that i make from it vinegar 5% for two months and corals looks good enough till now also parameters po4 0-0.06 in my 3000 liter tanks. Now when i get the analysis I am afraid that i am poisoning my tanks slowly. I tried just vinegar alone but it took long time with no success.
Before i used to use bio pellets but it was hard to me to get the po4 less than 0.1

What analysis?

 

[Sams reef]

What analysis?

This one

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

It may be fine, but I would not risk it.

 

[Sams reef]

Sorry, I should have said a compound like strychnine.

So, where did this ethanol come from?

From chemicals company in my area. It’s not food grade but it’s much cheaper.

 

[Sams reef]

It may be fine, but I would not risk it.

Any suggestions? Because i use huge amounts in my systems.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I’d look for ethanol with other denaturing chemicals in it.

 

[Dan_P]

From chemicals company in my area. It’s not food grade but it’s much cheaper.

Keep in mind that recovered chemicals are not necessarily analyzed for a wide range of contaminants. The analysis for brucine could just be the worst chemical contaminant, but not all. I personally would not try to save money this way.

 

[Sams reef]

Keep in mind that recovered chemicals are not necessarily analyzed for a wide range of contaminants. The analysis for brucine could just be the worst chemical contaminant, but not all. I personally would not try to save money this way.

Got it. You have any available suggestions? I will try to find as Randy mentioned, any other suggestions?

 

[Dan_P]

Got it. You have any available suggestions? I will try to find as Randy mentioned, any other suggestions?

That was all the ideas I had on the subject.

 

[Sams reef]

Maybe there is one option to get ethanol denatured with bitrex “denatonium benzoate”.
Is it safe enough?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Maybe there is one option to get ethanol denatured with bitrex “denatonium benzoate”.
Is it safe enough?

Can you find alcohol denatured with isopropanol or methanol? One such recipe is called 3A.

 

[Sams reef]

Can you find alcohol denatured with isopropanol or methanol? One such recipe is called 3A.

I found ethanol 96% denatured with methanol. This one is okay?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I found ethanol 96% denatured with methanol. This one is okay?

I expect so, yes.