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extreme fallow testing. how rare is that in one place. Friends at nano-reef.com/creative bunch have posted some very neat oxidation results and the ties into tank cycling, tank filtration, tank care options, are astounding though on initial inspection it seems to be just a collection of ammonia tests.
The significance is these were starved systems, starved.
Only water was provided for months and months and months for these rocks, not in aquaria with fish or bioloading, but in clear water storage buckets, and they never lost their ability to oxidize right about the same bioload they could when in a live aquarium
what that says about surface area activation, and deactivation, is Cycle article gold for the keen eyes.
How important now does ghost feeding seem?
There's two different types of ghost feeding Im referring to: one kind is to feed live rock animals like worms, starfish, and corals that may be implanted. those are heterotrophic feeders who require protein, not saying to starve those
there's the other kind where every aquarist on the planet was told, or read, at some time that we must feed bacteria or they'll die/retroscale back to nothingness. nano-reef.com just ended that paradigm, another one down. last one was allelopathy pats on the back to small tankers.
If anyone at Reef 2 Reef has fallow rock oxidation testing to offer, or any form of extreme testing of nitrifying bacteria testing to offer, imagine that in an article. Undoing bacterial myths by simple testing.
*we need emersion data
our critical surfaces are coated in insulating biofilms that allow for water loss for quite time time, nitrifiers are AMAZING
I have reports of a gentleman keeping his rocks out 8 weeks, in a cool dark place but still no water, rehydrating the rocks, and being able to digest 2 ppm of ammonia within 24 hours, the signified "cycle complete test"
more people can run these kinds of interesting tests
we think in the end, a trend will develop, that shows the aquarist your filtration bacteria and associated bacteria within their matrices are the first to come, and last to go, in any aquarium you'll keep barring any medication events. You simply do not have to concern over your filtration bacteria when relocating, cleaning, upgrading, downgrading, within very reasonable allowance levels, that frees aquarists a bit better than the old notions of bacterial weakness/dependence on us
they were quite adapted before we happened along w their cages.
these tests fly in the face of claimed nitrifier limitations online that any search will show: cannot tolerate temp swings well, cannot tolerate ammonia spikes without dying or being part of a ramp up, cannot handle emersion very well
all proven false in upcoming tests, hopefully. those remarks above are for pure culture reflections on nitrifiers, perhaps in packing solutions. Its not reflective of tank-level microbiology-online readings reveal from scholar that nitrifiers in nature and in aquaria exist as a complex with other bacteria- in insulated mats covering all major submerged surfaces. that distinction is critical; in the aquarium, if you will keep things wet, your bac really don't disappear it seems
enjoy/discuss how bacteria are the toughest group of creatures we'll ever farm and how we thought the were the weakest six mins ago.
extreme fallow testing. how rare is that in one place. Friends at nano-reef.com/creative bunch have posted some very neat oxidation results and the ties into tank cycling, tank filtration, tank care options, are astounding though on initial inspection it seems to be just a collection of ammonia tests.
The significance is these were starved systems, starved.
Only water was provided for months and months and months for these rocks, not in aquaria with fish or bioloading, but in clear water storage buckets, and they never lost their ability to oxidize right about the same bioload they could when in a live aquarium
what that says about surface area activation, and deactivation, is Cycle article gold for the keen eyes.
How important now does ghost feeding seem?
There's two different types of ghost feeding Im referring to: one kind is to feed live rock animals like worms, starfish, and corals that may be implanted. those are heterotrophic feeders who require protein, not saying to starve those
there's the other kind where every aquarist on the planet was told, or read, at some time that we must feed bacteria or they'll die/retroscale back to nothingness. nano-reef.com just ended that paradigm, another one down. last one was allelopathy pats on the back to small tankers.
If anyone at Reef 2 Reef has fallow rock oxidation testing to offer, or any form of extreme testing of nitrifying bacteria testing to offer, imagine that in an article. Undoing bacterial myths by simple testing.
*we need emersion data
our critical surfaces are coated in insulating biofilms that allow for water loss for quite time time, nitrifiers are AMAZING
I have reports of a gentleman keeping his rocks out 8 weeks, in a cool dark place but still no water, rehydrating the rocks, and being able to digest 2 ppm of ammonia within 24 hours, the signified "cycle complete test"
more people can run these kinds of interesting tests
we think in the end, a trend will develop, that shows the aquarist your filtration bacteria and associated bacteria within their matrices are the first to come, and last to go, in any aquarium you'll keep barring any medication events. You simply do not have to concern over your filtration bacteria when relocating, cleaning, upgrading, downgrading, within very reasonable allowance levels, that frees aquarists a bit better than the old notions of bacterial weakness/dependence on us
they were quite adapted before we happened along w their cages.
these tests fly in the face of claimed nitrifier limitations online that any search will show: cannot tolerate temp swings well, cannot tolerate ammonia spikes without dying or being part of a ramp up, cannot handle emersion very well
all proven false in upcoming tests, hopefully. those remarks above are for pure culture reflections on nitrifiers, perhaps in packing solutions. Its not reflective of tank-level microbiology-online readings reveal from scholar that nitrifiers in nature and in aquaria exist as a complex with other bacteria- in insulated mats covering all major submerged surfaces. that distinction is critical; in the aquarium, if you will keep things wet, your bac really don't disappear it seems
enjoy/discuss how bacteria are the toughest group of creatures we'll ever farm and how we thought the were the weakest six mins ago.
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