Waterbox 150.4 Sump - Reefmat 500 Installation thoughts . . .

[BigAl07]

I'm in the middle of setting up our Waterbox Infinia 150.4

We are adding a Reefmat 500 instead of the Filter Socks so I need to modify the main drain pipe to run into the Reefmat instead of the back chamber in the factory sump. The area inside the red circle is that main focus of this post:

My questions are:

1) Is the main reason for the "narrow back chamber" merely for the drain lines? The water comes into this chamber from the Main and E-drain, flows under a "bubble wall?" into the filtration chamber, up over the wall and then across the Filter Sock Distribution Plate and so on. I've removed the Filter Sock Distribution Plate and this is where I'll be placing the ReefMat 500.

2) Will this back chamber become "stagnant" since there's no source of significant flow through that chamber w/o the drain input.

I'm sure others have done this and know exactly what I'm talking about but I can't seem to find it being "discussed" or I'm not using the correct terms in my "Forum Search" endeavor lol.

 

[lapin]

2) Will this back chamber become "stagnant" since there's no source of significant flow through that chamber w/o the drain input.

I would think over time yes. Blow it out with turkey baser once a week.

 

[Kzang]

I have the peninsula. So what I did was use the manifold off the return to recycle water back there so it has flow for the probes, trident, and etc without being stagnant or emptying it.

My tank is the peninsula why it looks a bit different than yours.

 

[BigAl07]

I have the peninsula. So what I did was use the manifold off the return to recycle water back there so it has flow for the probes, trident, and etc without being stagnant or emptying it.

My tank is the peninsula why it looks a bit different than yours.

That's an excellent idea. I may have to incorporate that into my design as well. Do you have your heater(s) in there as well?

 

[Kzang]

That's an excellent idea. I may have to incorporate that into my design as well. Do you have your heater(s) in there as well?

I did, but I ended up moving them to each side of the fleece roller so they get better flow.

I still have my feed pump for ozone, trident sampling, and probes

 

[BigAl07]

I did, but I ended up moving them to each side of the fleece roller so they get better flow.

I still have my feed pump for ozone, trident sampling, and probes

Excellent ideas!!

 

[mizukage]

I thought these came ready to accept filter rollers without modification ?

 

[Raptor72]

I’m setting up a WB 330 with the same kind of sump and a RM 1200. Today I had a wild thought and considered dumping the return from the UV sterilizer into that back chamber to circulate the water. Just a thought for now but I’ll sleep on it and see what else comes to mind.

 

[BigAl07]

I’m setting up a WB 330 with the same kind of sump and a RM 1200. Today I had a wild thought and considered dumping the return from the UV sterilizer into that back chamber to circulate the water. Just a thought for now but I’ll sleep on it and see what else comes to mind.

That's pretty much exactly what I'm planning to do as well. I don't have the UV yet but once I get it that's where the output will go.

I thought these came ready to accept filter rollers without modification ?

The SUMP itself is ready for a roller mat but the main drain is designed to go straight down into the rear chamber but you want that flow to do INTO/THROUGH the Roller Mat. Therefore we had to cut the downpipe for main drain and use the flexible tubing that came with the ReefMat 500 to route the flow into the Roller Intake.

Other than that, you just have to LIFT OUT the sock holders as opposed to having to cut/remove silicone in older setups.

 

[mizukage]

That's pretty much exactly what I'm planning to do as well. I don't have the UV yet but once I get it that's where the output will go.



The SUMP itself is ready for a roller mat but the main drain is designed to go straight down into the rear chamber but you want that flow to do INTO/THROUGH the Roller Mat. Therefore we had to cut the downpipe for main drain and use the flexible tubing that came with the ReefMat 500 to route the flow into the Roller Intake.

Other than that, you just have to LIFT OUT the sock holders as opposed to having to cut/remove silicone in older setups.

Very good information, thank you. Maybe I’ll just stick with the socks until I’m more comfortable messing with the sump

 

[Flowology]

Im trying to do the same thing and getting a leak out of the manifold turn knob. I can’t figure out if the valve isn’t meant to withstand the pressure or maybe it’s faulty. Any thoughts?

Tank is brand new, set up a month ago. Reason for this is when the return pump gets shut off, water floods back there any way and just sits without any flow, like mentioned.

 

[Flowology]

I have the peninsula. So what I did was use the manifold off the return to recycle water back there so it has flow for the probes, trident, and etc without being stagnant or emptying it.

My tank is the peninsula why it looks a bit different than yours.

Im trying to do the same thing and getting a leak out of the manifold turn knob. I can’t figure out if the valve isn’t meant to withstand the pressure or maybe it’s faulty. Any thoughts?

Tank is brand new, set up a month ago. Reason for this is when the return pump gets shut off, water floods back there any way and just sits without any flow, like mentioned.

 

[BigAl07]

Im trying to do the same thing and getting a leak out of the manifold turn knob. I can’t figure out if the valve isn’t meant to withstand the pressure or maybe it’s faulty. Any thoughts?

Tank is brand new, set up a month ago. Reason for this is when the return pump gets shut off, water floods back there any way and just sits without any flow, like mentioned.

I have a similar drip in that same valve. It just drips into the back chamber so I haven't given it a 2nd thought.

 

[Flowology]

I have a similar drip in that same valve. It just drips into the back chamber so I haven't given it a 2nd thought.

That’s interesting. There really shouldn’t be any leakage but what do I know? It drips enough to set off my OCD .

I’m removing mine completely, putting the plug back in. Waiting on parts from BRS currently to put a dual manifold in where my 1” pipe 90’s to the return pump. I’ll post pics this weekend in case anyone is interested.

 

[reeftailtherapy]

Hey guys. I just got my 150.4 it’s dry. Planning to scape this weekend and then maybe transfer everything over from my 2 smaller systems. With the sump and the glass ato tank all on the floor, where am I supposed to put my trident, NP, waste container etc. also with these thin walls, where\how are you mounting the apex, dos, and eb8?

 

[BigAl07]

Hey guys. I just got my 150.4 it’s dry. Planning to scape this weekend and then maybe transfer everything over from my 2 smaller systems. With the sump and the glass ato tank all on the floor, where am I supposed to put my trident, NP, waste container etc. also with these thin walls, where\how are you mounting the apex, dos, and eb8?

It sounds like you may need an auxiliary cabinet might fit your needs. There's not a lot of extra room inside the cabinet for bulky items.

 

[mayland]

That's pretty much exactly what I'm planning to do as well. I don't have the UV yet but once I get it that's where the output will go.

Curious if this is what you ended up doing? (UV draining into rear drain). Versus returning the UV to the return pump compartment and sending water from the manifold into the drain? We are setting up our 150.4 and have the same set up. Wondering if we lose UV efficiency by sending the output to the beginning of the sump.

 

[BigAl07]

I’m setting up a WB 330 with the same kind of sump and a RM 1200. Today I had a wild thought and considered dumping the return from the UV sterilizer into that back chamber to circulate the water. Just a thought for now but I’ll sleep on it and see what else comes to mind.

@Raptor72 what did you end up doing with the output from your UV unit? I like the idea of running it through that back chamber just to keep water circulating through there more.

 

[BigAl07]

Curious if this is what you ended up doing? (UV draining into rear drain). Versus returning the UV to the return pump compartment and sending water from the manifold into the drain? We are setting up our 150.4 and have the same set up. Wondering if we lose UV efficiency by sending the output to the beginning of the sump.

I haven't set up a UV as of yet. I currently have a slight amount going into the E-overflow that gives a small amount of water movement in the back chamber.

 

[kfries]

Im trying to do the same thing and getting a leak out of the manifold turn knob. I can’t figure out if the valve isn’t meant to withstand the pressure or maybe it’s faulty. Any thoughts?

Tank is brand new, set up a month ago. Reason for this is when the return pump gets shut off, water floods back there any way and just sits without any flow, like mentioned.

I have the same drip in that valve. The stop on mine broke so I can turn the valve either direction. It seems to drip less in one orientation. It over the sump and very slow so I don't worry. When the valve is closed it stops. I may replace it with one from a different manufacturer at some point.