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Before you dose PNS PROBIO, I encourage you to smell it
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What's your tank setup like? IIRC, it'll do best in lit anaerobic zones, like the upper layers of the sand bed, so if you're running bare bottom that may be one issue. It supposedly works well in conjunction with carbon dosing, so that's another option worth checking out. I run biopellets, have never bothered with vodka or other liquid methods, so that might be worth looking into. A skimmer is also pretty much a must. I know most people run skimmers, but I still had to ask. Without one, there's no w ay for the nutrient laden bacteria to be removed from the system.I used it for 6 weeks including the yellow sno as directed and it had no effects on either N03 or P04. Not a single 100th of a point of reduction. I know 6 weeks isn't long but with other bacterial products I've at least seen seem some type of reduction by this time.
I had high hopes it would be the one bacteria that would be better at sequestering P04 but it was a bust.
There are many commercial bacteria products that are a lot less and do well with nitrates but not so with P04, so my search continues.
Maybe in conjunction with a carbon dosing regime it would work better but I can get that with the less expensive products.
can i ask why you think its mandatory to run a skimmer? i have it on a skimmerless system. And, wondering what downside this could cause.
Wow, thanks for all the details. Yes, it's certainly possible that most of the PO4 was exported via the skimmer. These bacteria are phosphate accumulators, and thus can take up much more PO4 than they require for growth, and do so in short time.So my phosphates were at 3.4 and my Nitrates were 73 post water change in my seahorse tank. Turned skimmers off and dosed Thursday night. Kept skimmers off overnight and fed seahorses in AM. Took water sample around 2 hrs post meal and tested again. My Phosphates had dropped from 3.7 to 3.4 and Nitrates rose slightly. Turned skimmer on and took water Sunday morning to test and my phospahtes came back at 0 and Nitrates were at 10 Did the skimmer take up the bacteria after it ate the phosphate? We did retest 3 times. Pretty amazed. Now were testing to see how often I will be needing to dose.
Oh, nice, yes, these bacteria (Rhodopseudomonas spp.) and their relatives (the Bradyrhizobiaceae) apparently perform really well on biochar. Check out this study comparing biochar to Hagen Biomax as biomedia. Fresh Aquachar has an internal pH that is high enough to inhibit their growth, but mature Aquachar might be an excellent medium (in addition to your sandbed). Thanks again for all the details.tested today and phosphates rose to 1.5. I feed insane amounts of food a day. 50 seahorses eat a lot daily. I do have a deep sand bed, say about 8 inches deep as we have garden eels in there as well. Aquachar too but it changed with the PNS probio for sure. Only thing
I changed. I’ll be testing tomorrow to see where we’re at. Experiment will be on hold as we travel to NY Thursday until next Tuesday. Stuffs great and smell wasn’t sulfur bad
Where do you purchase the home grow kits?I love the stuff. I use 4 oz every other day between 3 tanks ,2 60 gallon systems and a 160 gallon system. I only need to scraped the glass once a week twice at the most. Helps keep PO4 low all 3 tanks @ about .04 -.06 ppm.
I use the home grow kits and produce 2.5 gallons at a times. Here is a shot of the growing system.
Where do you purchase the home grow kits?