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Maintenance Supervisor for 198 unit apartment community in SC. HVAC, CPO, plumbing, electrical, etc. You break it and I can fix it..... well, most of the time. Never out of work in SC working HVAC. I've been on my current property 7 years. Total time in field, about 10-11.
 
What's your take on using Bayer as a coral dip?

This is an excerpt from an email correspondence that I had a few months ago with a well known coral vendor on this site when I was asked the same question. Please understand I am coming at this subject from a very different perspective than most. It has also been my experience in dealing with the public in regards to pesticide use ("I bought this at the garden center and ...") that very few read the ENTIRE label, just the directions.


First and foremost, when it comes to pesticide use, the first thing that is drilled into my new employees heads is that "The label is the law". Every pesticide label includes the statement "It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling". I can assure you that the EPA, State and local regulatory agencies takes this VERY SERIOUSLY!!! Can't stress this enough. Product use inconsistent with its labeling, puts my company at risk of fines and potential loss of business and pesticide license. From reading the boards about this subject, I have even read comments on threads from people who claim to be in the pest control business advocating using Bayer for frag dips which blows my mind if they are truly in the pest control industry. From a business liability standpoint, if something were to happen to someone from using this product and it came back to the business/person that recommended its use in "...violation of Federal law..." ...(redacted)... I know this may sound anal, but it is Federal law, and I have 20 employees handling and applying chemicals in the public arena. As a business owner in my line of work I always ask myself "How could this put me at risk for a lawsuit today?".

The active ingredient imidacloprid is highly toxic to invertebrates, and the active ingredient cyfluthrin is highly toxic to fish. The label for this product states "This product is highly toxic to aquatic invertebrates and fish"

Please don't take this response in the wrong way. It is not my intention to sound harsh, but this is a subject that has been of concern to me. I'm just passing along my thoughts on the subject from the perspective of a 27 year veteran in the pest control industry and a owner of a pest control company for the last 20 years in the state of Florida where pest control is a annual multi-billion dollar industry. Needless to say we are HIGHLY regulated here.

As far as proper safe handling, I must defer you to the label ;)


So, that being said, I would hope that if someone were to choose to use this product, even though there are products available for the specific use of dipping corals, that they would read the entire label and follow all safety precautions.
 
Maintenance Supervisor for 198 unit apartment community in SC. HVAC, CPO, plumbing, electrical, etc. You break it and I can fix it..... well, most of the time. Never out of work in SC working HVAC. I've been on my current property 7 years. Total time in field, about 10-11.
On call sucks.....I did maintenance for 15 years my biggest property was 580 units..
 
On call sucks.....I did maintenance for 15 years my biggest property was 580 units..
On call as we speak. Lol. At least I live a mile from property in case of emergency. But yeah, only being 198 units means every other week on call.... boo!
 
On call as we speak. Lol. At least I live a mile from property in case of emergency. But yeah, only being 198 units means every other week on call.... boo!
My heart goes out to you for being on property tday hope it's not to bad...I started turning/doing clean outs for people who rent houses. Using all the knowledge I learned in apartments now I have no more on call...
 
Manufacturing engineer, assembling the electronics for satellites. Working with electronics unfortunately makes me want the latest and greatest tech for my reef but fortunately my cash flow and better half prevent me from acting on those impulses :D

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Everyone has such great pictures I figured I should at least add an image of one of the satellites my lab built the electronics for. Otherwise I'd be doing this great thread a disservice. Actually I had trouble loading an image so I'll just link a short video of James Webb Space Telescope. My lab does all the boring electronics that aren't even mentioned in the video. Either way it was definitely an honor to touch even a small piece of it!

 
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My heart goes out to you for being on property tday hope it's not to bad...I started turning/doing clean outs for people who rent houses. Using all the knowledge I learned in apartments now I have no more on call...
Not bad at all. Just getting the chemicals in line on the pool and seeing if any calls from last night came in. So far in the clear. Just looking at my phone waiting. The second I stop waiting it'll happen. Lol! Appreciate the support! Thanks!
 
Up to ten years ago I used to build these. Now, Thank God I can go out in my boat and just look at them. :D



I was out there last night and put my phone in back of me without even looking and took this over the Bronx. Which beats working a few million times. :p

 
I'm an electronics technician. We build digital X-Ray detectors for early (hopefully early) cancer detection; mammography. They're also used for vascular surgeries, industrial applications and we've just recently started building detectors for radiography. I repair the detectors and make sure they're perfect before they leave.
 
This is an excerpt from an email correspondence that I had a few months ago with a well known coral vendor on this site when I was asked the same question. Please understand I am coming at this subject from a very different perspective than most. It has also been my experience in dealing with the public in regards to pesticide use ("I bought this at the garden center and ...") that very few read the ENTIRE label, just the directions.


First and foremost, when it comes to pesticide use, the first thing that is drilled into my new employees heads is that "The label is the law". Every pesticide label includes the statement "It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling". I can assure you that the EPA, State and local regulatory agencies takes this VERY SERIOUSLY!!! Can't stress this enough. Product use inconsistent with its labeling, puts my company at risk of fines and potential loss of business and pesticide license. From reading the boards about this subject, I have even read comments on threads from people who claim to be in the pest control business advocating using Bayer for frag dips which blows my mind if they are truly in the pest control industry. From a business liability standpoint, if something were to happen to someone from using this product and it came back to the business/person that recommended its use in "...violation of Federal law..." ...(redacted)... I know this may sound anal, but it is Federal law, and I have 20 employees handling and applying chemicals in the public arena. As a business owner in my line of work I always ask myself "How could this put me at risk for a lawsuit today?".

The active ingredient imidacloprid is highly toxic to invertebrates, and the active ingredient cyfluthrin is highly toxic to fish. The label for this product states "This product is highly toxic to aquatic invertebrates and fish"

Please don't take this response in the wrong way. It is not my intention to sound harsh, but this is a subject that has been of concern to me. I'm just passing along my thoughts on the subject from the perspective of a 27 year veteran in the pest control industry and a owner of a pest control company for the last 20 years in the state of Florida where pest control is a annual multi-billion dollar industry. Needless to say we are HIGHLY regulated here.

As far as proper safe handling, I must defer you to the label ;)


So, that being said, I would hope that if someone were to choose to use this product, even though there are products available for the specific use of dipping corals, that they would read the entire label and follow all safety precautions.
Not harsh at all! This is exactly what I was looking for!
 

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