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Yeah, plus my tank just turned one year and had a ton of issues right after start up. I just now got to turn the lights back up, dose iron and other elements again, and finally got the rock to stop binding PO4. Can you believe it took 1 year for that to happen. That is a dry rock record for me. Never had one bind that long. It acted like it was going to saturate twice and then when I started coming down on the dosing it went south. This time…just out of the blue it hit its saturation point. I’m confident that this year will be a better year for growth, but I usually don’t expect too much from a dry rock tank until after the 2nd year. They are much slower vs LR tank. The Biome takes for ever to get it in gear, but the flip-side is that once it does, you’re pretty much pest and headache free. It’s just the hard road to get there.
I can absolutely believe it. One year is about the safe zone for trying SPS in a dry rock tank. Even though coralline may be growing on the glass, it takes that much longer to show up on the rocks. It’s a metaphorical desert; and corals don’t like it. You’ll also have higher par readings that first year as white rocks reflect more light under a coral and I don’t think they appreciate too much of that either.
 
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I have 3 of the LumenBright mini reflectors. Only have 12"-14" above the tank for mounting. Plan to run 250W 14Ks. Do you think it will be alright?
Perfect! I ran the same 2 with the bulb 14" from the surface.
Check my old build for more info.

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Perfect! I ran the same 2 with the bulb 14" from the surface.
Check my old build for more info.

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For how long on that tank? I keep getting so many conflicting answers. I’m probably gonna run 6-8 hrs. Still debating. I went 4 hrs off the bat at 25” above the waterline and the corals seem to love it. Already noticing a bit more PE and my stag is already getting more pronounced white growth tips.
 
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It’s a metaphorical desert; and corals don’t like it.

Couldn’t have said it better. Claude from Fauna Marin said our reef tanks are like a Ghetto compared to the ocean. :) I think he was right on the money. A dry rock tank in its first 2 years is like the worst Ghetto slum on earth. No food, no biome, no stability.
 

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I run mine 8 hours but I feel I’m pushing the limits of 250w so I opted for longer. If I went 400 I’d start at 5 and I’d guess end up around 6.

it takes time to adjust but mostly your corals. True blue and green pieces should look awesome immediately. I usually shoot with a dslr for better quality but here are a few with my iPhone from just now.

Excuse the bryopsis explosion
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That’s just the 250w 14k Hammies on. Definitely more pop on tenuis ect with the bars on. Bars on and I feel the blues in the tank become less pronounced. BC Skinny love at the bottom of the group shot gets lost.
 

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I think that is accurate about the protective pigments.

I posted this earlier this year in a lighting thread that got shut down. I will post it here because I believe this as well. You can see that when I switched from LED to all T5 my corals that had "pretty" colors were all brown turds. a couple of months later, and I had amazing colors under whiter light. When my blues would hit them at night, then they would absolutely glow.


This is a copy and paste from that post.

I started my tank with 4 Marsaqua black boxes and grew Acro's well with them. I have no hate for LED's and honestly, if I could light my new tank adequately with top of the line LED's without breaking the bank then I would have more than likely choose LED's.

If you look at my posts in this thread a month ago before I purchased all of my halide gear I was contemplating using 10 of my black boxes that I had laying around for the new tank.

I have run VHO's, T5's, LED, and Halide over the last two decades. What I can say from my own personal experience is this. Yes, I had good growth and color from the black box LED's. However, when I switched to T5's all of the corals looked brown. It wasn't until two months later that I started to see their true color. I am running all T5's with an actinic reef breeders LED bar and the colors I am getting now are amazing under white light!

Almost 2 years ago with black box lights
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This was right after I switched to T5's. You can see how brown most of the pieces look. They didn't look that brown under the black boxes.
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Fast forward and this is the result of T5's. No issues with color here.
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Beautiful. Just curious, what bulb combo did you use?
 

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For how long on that tank? I keep getting so many conflicting answers. I’m probably gonna run 6-8 hrs. Still debating. I went 4 hrs off the bat at 25” above the waterline and the corals seem to love it. Already noticing a bit more PE and my stag is already getting more pronounced white growth tips.
At 1 year I went from 8t5's to the 250's. I ran them from the 1 year mark to 33 months so 21 months at 8hrs
Its all on my build thread if you want to see the progression.
 

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For you 400's I would set them at 8hrs a day and run them for a couple week then slowly to around 16-18"

Here is a few pics from my 120 I took down.
You can follow the progression from day one on the old build thread.
Halides came online at the 1 year mark. I ran them 21 months at 8hrs a day. Took tank down at 33 months.
I did add 2 Orphek bars for day/night ramp but I ended up running them for 10hrs.

The 250's give pretty good color as long as everything else is inline.
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Beautiful. Just curious, what bulb combo did you use?

Thank you. I got some really good colors from the T5s. I used a 50/50 combo of coral+ and blue+.
 

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Found these grow light reflectors and bought two for a future CDA build I’ll have coming in a few months. $90 plus $10 for the mogul socket setup. 22” x 22” and just about 9” in height for the reflector. Hammertone finish on all panels. Pendant does not come assembled. Small screws and wing nuts hold it together so assembly was a slight pain but you can disassemble and easily store. Mogul socket is way too short to center the bulb (Radium 250). I did purchase 4.3” socket extenders to get the bulb very close to center. $8 to add to total cost. Ordered them yesterday so will have to wait on them. Overall it looks good. Won’t have numbers for some time as I wait for new tank.

I may play with the light over a low boy frag tank I have yet to set up to get some dry tank par numbers. If I do I’ll post numbers here.

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Found these grow light reflectors and bought two for a future CDA build I’ll have coming in a few months. $90 plus $10 for the mogul socket setup. 22” x 22” and just about 9” in height for the reflector. Hammertone finish on all panels. Pendant does not come assembled. Small screws and wing nuts hold it together so assembly was a slight pain but you can disassemble and easily store. Mogul socket is way too short to center the bulb (Radium 250). I did purchase 4.3” socket extenders to get the bulb very close to center. $8 to add to total cost. Ordered them yesterday so will have to wait on them. Overall it looks good. Won’t have numbers for some time as I wait for new tank.

I may play with the light over a low boy frag tank I have yet to set up to get some dry tank par numbers. If I do I’ll post numbers here.

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I’d love somebody to test the horticulture reflectors vs something like Hamilton Cayman Sun. I bet the PAR is similar. I wonder why they do the bumpy bumps and not smooth and more reflective. Not sure how much difference that makes.
 

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