Zoa elimination

[1000rrstunna]

After reading all the paly toxin stuff decided that zoa's aren’t for me anymore. I knew about it still added some to the tank but now its really time to let them go

What are these and any concerns removing ? Some grew to back glass too how do I safely remove without potentially poisoning my household and myself in the process.

 

[1000rrstunna]

I think these are pandoras right ? Not a paly but still need caution

 

[ariellemermaid]

I posted a thread on this recently, but didn’t get many responses. I thought I had zoas but I think they turned out to be palys.

What I did find: first, the obvious which would be removing and bleaching the rock. Not an option for me.

Second, what I’m gearing up to try. First, carbon. Then lots of aiptasia killer. Then scrape with a bent metal straw from Amazon (possibly with a sharp bevel cut or ground on the tip) connected to some fitting hardware store hose. Supposedly this allows you to both scrape the Coral off as well as provide a siphon for suction that doesn’t actually remove that much water since the hose and the straw are fairly small. Seems like a good combo of killing/removing the coral with suction to remove toxins and chunks. I also have Amazon armpit length chemical gloves for general tank care.

Let me know if you come up with any easier solutions but it seems like elbow grease is the only way. I have read removing it and keeping it under water the whole time is the safest way though. TBH I’m less concerned about toxin though as I am it taking a full 1/3 of my entire tank’s rocks. It doesn’t look bad but I want way more diversity!

 

[TangerineSpeedo]

Just put your rocks up for sale and make a few hundred... Did you know some dinos ( Ostreopsis dinoflagellates) have palytoxins, which are more common than palytoxins in zoas? Just saying...
If you have a safety concern, maybe just be vigilant with proper precautions.
I am not trying to gloss over palytoxin poisoning, I think I got it in January and ended up in the ER. It is just so many other things in this hobby that can affect you. Just because you got rid of your zoas, you are not going to be free and clear.

 

[ariellemermaid]

Did you know some dinos ( Ostreopsis dinoflagellates) have palytoxins, which are more common than palytoxins in zoas? Just saying...
If you have a safety concern, maybe just be vigilant with proper precautions.
I am not trying to gloss over palytoxin poisoning, I think I got it in January and ended up in the ER.

What?! You literally just made his point. You had to go to the hospital! That’s what he’s trying to avoid. Plus if he has kids and a wife he likes….

 

[TangerineSpeedo]

What?! You literally just made his point. You had to go to the hospital! That’s what he’s trying to avoid. Plus if he has kids and a wife he likes….

Not from Zoas... from Dinos...
Plus what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger... :rolleyes:

 

[ReefingDreams]

Not from Zoas... from Dinos...
Plus what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger... :rolleyes:

Except in the case of palytoxin, which is presumed to bioaccumulate.

That said, I feel the OP is overreacting. And any course of action that destroys a zoa/paly is more likely to cause them issues than leaving them be. Just my .02.

 

[ariellemermaid]

Except in the case of palytoxin, which is presumed to bioaccumulate.

That said, I feel the OP is overreacting. And any course of action that destroys a zoa/paly is more likely to cause them issues than leaving them be. Just my .02.

You guys realize people out there won’t take life saving vaccines because “toxins.” Won’t take medications because “toxins.” Put onions in their shoes and make themselves poop nonstop on cleanses because “toxins.”

To each their own. But I think if the OP has a reason to want to remove a coral because of an actual toxin the question isn’t about that desire…it’s about how to do it. The question wasn’t “what does everyone think about palytoxins.”

 

[1000rrstunna]

Not from Zoa's... from Dinos...
Plus what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger... :rolleyes:

I get it i have kept zoas for a decade but i think its time to be done... i'm just going to give away the rocks to another reefer i'm not worried about the liverock...

 

[littlebigreef]

I get it i have kept zoas for a decade but i think its time to be done... i'm just going to give away the rocks to another reefer i'm not worried about the liverock...

That's the right answer all day.