“You Can’t Do That!”

[crazyfishmom]

Yes, tried this and it dis not go well. I currently dont have any corals anymore

I think it ties back to how experienced the reefer is but no one tells you that and they make it a blanket statement which I don’t do well with.

 

[crazyfishmom]

Mines been thriving since the first week! That’s all crap! Even the corraline algae deal and nems, blah blah…

Exactly! Depends on a lot.

 

[Garf]

Mines been thriving since the first week! That’s all crap! Even the corraline algae deal and nems, blah blah…

Dry rock, barebottom?

 

[Reefer Matt]

It is great when people do things and fish die just to try and prove someone wrong

Or when they don’t. Those with experience know the limits of their abilities.

 

[Dmmz]

"you cannot keep a mixed reef tank in a gallon of water" = busted

"you cannot wash people's sandbeds out with tap water without killing their tank" busted, it makes their tank work better than before the rinse out, sixty page example thread handy. nothing in tap water is hurting anyone's reef. the warnings come with zero work thread examples, the actual work threads show strong outcomes and no bad ones. when tested, the truth was opposite of what the masses initially thought.

"you cannot put peroxide into a reef tank, it's an antibiotic and a strong oxidizer, it'll kill the tank" (said every reef chemist in reefing, before ten thousand people did it anyway) busted, see all large peroxide work threads since 2011, see Troy's large 50 page peroxide work thread at the top of the nuisance algae forum. peroxide went from 'bad, will oxidize your tank and kill all pods' and being bad on paper during chemical equation balancing, to a permanently helpful tool for all of reefing. opposite of what the chemists said would happen, happened.

I didn't know you were the one that proved these things true so good for you, but there is a difference in doing something not proven compared to someone telling you wrong. I just don't believe in doing something without knowing if it will work or not and killing everything in your tank so you have a chance of saying see it worked.

 

[Troylee]

Dry rock, barebottom?

Old rinsed sand with a garden hose and about 30 pounds of live rock with 200 pounds of dry rock.

 

[Reefer Matt]

Don’t add Acropora to a tank that’s less than 1 year old.

That’s an experienced based one for sure. I do it in about two months now with new tanks.

 

[Dmmz]

Or when they don’t. Those with experience know the limits of their abilities.

Most that do it are not and if they tried new things with other pets and said ooops another dog or cat died I don't think people would feel the same way as fish and coral

 

[Dburr1014]

I didn't know you were the one that proved these things true so good for you, but there is a difference in doing something not proven compared to someone telling you wrong. I just don't believe in doing something without knowing if it will work or not and killing everything in your tank so you have a chance of saying see it worked.

Wait until I use ivermectin on my tank swap. Those spionid worms don't know who there dealing with!

 

[Troylee]

I didn't know you were the one that proved these things true so good for you, but there is a difference in doing something not proven compared to someone telling you wrong. I just don't believe in doing something without knowing if it will work or not and killing everything in your tank so you have a chance of saying see it worked.

I started the whole h202 dosing thing about 15 years ago when I got Dino’s and talked to a local scientist buddy who’s a reef keeper.. he told me try peroxide 1ml per 10 gallons and I did, not knowing anything different or if it would kill things or what not! Dinos were killing things so I had nothing to lose didn’t research it didn’t care I just wanted a clean tank so I did it haha! It’s def evolved and used for almost everything in this hobby now it’s sorta crazy!

 

[Reefer Matt]

Most that do it are not and if they tried new things with other pets and said ooops another dog or cat died I don't think people would feel the same way as fish and coral

I agree completely. Coral and fish are animals that deserve our care and respect. However there are those who think they know everything in every situation. Which is not true. No one person knows it all. There are ways to “experiment” that have no ill effect on the livestock of an aquarium.

 

[exnisstech]

Wife: "You can't get another reef tank"

So far i've been losing this battle.

Your going about it all wrong. She should be saying "why did you get another tank?"

 

[Dmmz]

I agree completely. Coral and fish are animals that deserve our care and respect. However there are those who think they know everything in every situation. Which is not true. No one person knows it all. There are ways to “experiment” that have no ill effect on the livestock of an aquarium.

I agree with you about that but just see to much of the other side that makes me hate this hobby sometimes. Just seeing this thread I figured it was to get reactions good and bad so I gave my opinion

 

[Dmmz]

They said that this was to many tangs for a 10 gallon tank but look they are all happy you just have to know what your doing.

 

[PapaFishRocks]

I’ve always put my “You can’t do that!” into 3 categories

1. “If I was you”: here’s my opinion, but I don’t know or care enough. Do what you want.

2. “I highly recommend”: I have some real first hand experience and this is what to expect if you do it

3. “Non-negotiable”: Look, what you want to do is just not going to work and here is the clear, concise, and professionally accepted reason why

 

[Naekuh]

depends on the person telling me i guess.

If its someone like Jay Hemdal or Vetteguy, you dayam bet im gonna follow their advice.
If its a completely random person who makes absolutely no sense in why i can't do something, then no, i will try and try and find a way even if i kills me, if it fits the application i need down to the nanometer.

 

[krollins]

"You can't keep a saltwater tank, you're to young,"

 

[capted]

Wife: No, you can't drill a hole through the wall for fresh air for the skimmer.
Me: did it at night and it's behind the tank so it's not noticed.
Problem: If I move the tank! Ha.

 

[Spare time]

My biggest one is very controversial and I want to clarify that it doesn't work for everyone and isn't the only way to do things.

I was told you can't skip quarantine and have long term success with fish. In reality moving to a more "prevent disease through fish health and immunity" approach led to me losing a LOT less fish in the first 3 months and overall much healthier seeming fish. I've only lost 2 new addition fish since then (one was a rescue attempt the other notoriously hard to acclimate) in comparison to the 15-20% I was losing in the QT process and the immediately following time before that. Anecdotal, but it's worked for me.

That same logic applies to winning a streak in a game of craps. Eventually you will crap out.

 

[Cthulukelele]

That same logic applies to winning a streak in a game of craps. Eventually you will crap out.

Entirely possible, but I know there is ich and many manner of other baddies in my tank. The big thing I worry about is velvet, but even then I'm not sure whether it's warranted or not. Like I said it's not the only or perhaps even the best way to reef, but it's what has worked best for me. Good water, good food, lots of pods to eat from the get go, and lots of live food. If it changes and my loss count becomes higher than what I was losing quarantining, I'll gladly eat my humble pie and change my practices