00W's AIO Smorgasbord

[kevgib67]

Morning y'all!
It's Monday...
Be safe out there today!

Good morning Joel, have a nice Saturday!

 

[kingranch2003]

Good morning John! Beautiful as always!

Thanks Kevin. Good to see you this morning buddy. Im intrigued by what you have going on with your chalice! Very interesting

 

[luis angel]

 

[Üter]

I actually met her. 25 years ago.

 

[tharbin]

Not a bit.
Been 5 weeks.
I do have some beautiful big aiptasia.

I wonder if having a bare-bottom tank has something to do with it. When I found Berghia mating they were in the sand pretty far from the rocks.

I'm sorry they aren't working out, by now you should see a marked reduction in Aiptasia if they were doing their job.

I don't remember all of your fish but possibly predation when they were in the open.

 

[luis angel]

I wonder if having a bare-bottom tank has something to do with it. When I found Berghia mating they were in the sand pretty far from the rocks.

I'm sorry they aren't working out, by now you should see a marked reduction in Aiptasia if they were doing their job.

I don't remember all of your fish but possibly predation when they were in the open.

+1, I also think that predation played a big role in the berghias not doing their job.

 

[tharbin]

I mean your right. However I am personally tired of the Kessils getting in the way when I come to clean. There effective coverage range is 15x15, reefLED 90s effective range is 25x25. Two of them gives 50x50 will will exceed the tank by two inches.

Camden,

Your current A160s are very good lights but they are meant for smaller tanks or as a point source for a small area in a larger tank.

Two ReefLED 90s will cover 50x25 but still more than enough. The issue you still may have is that the ReefLED 90s are point sources like AI Primes, and Kessels. All point source lights are much brighter at their centers than their edges so you will want to position your most light-needy corals toward the centers of the lights. The nice thing is that you can add light bars later if you need them to supplement the ReefLEDs.

One of the big advantages of T5s (and the T12s from the old days) is even coverage that no point source can emulate. That is why supplemental bars are becoming so popular. They give almost the same coverage as a fluorescent tube. Those, especially paired with a metal halide gave almost idiot-proof coverage.

I have three AI Prime 16HDs and two AI Blade Grows over my 48x30x16 tank. If I went with all Primes I would have needed between six and eight for the same coverage. Panel LED lights kind of split the difference by spreading out the LEDs but they can only spread them so far before you start getting miniature point lights instead of wide coverage. LEDs got a bad rap in the early part of the century because they didn't really work very well and they were very expensive. Today's LED lights are vastly better and are beginning to rival the old MH-T5 setups both in performance and price but they aren't quite there yet. However they excel in controllability and convenience. For my tanks they are a no-brainer because cooling can be a major issue with Metal Halides over a tank in the desert in the summertime.

 

[kingranch2003]

Camden,

Your current A160s are very good lights but they are meant for smaller tanks or as a point source for a small area in a larger tank.

Two ReefLED 90s will cover 50x25 but still more than enough. The issue you still may have is that the ReefLED 90s are point sources like AI Primes, and Kessels. All point source lights are much brighter at their centers than their edges so you will want to position your most light-needy corals toward the centers of the lights. The nice thing is that you can add light bars later if you need them to supplement the ReefLEDs.

One of the big advantages of T5s (and the T12s from the old days) is even coverage that no point source can emulate. That is why supplemental bars are becoming so popular. They give almost the same coverage as a fluorescent tube. Those, especially paired with a metal halide gave almost idiot-proof coverage.

I have three AI Prime 16HDs and two AI Blade Grows over my 48x30x16 tank. If I went with all Primes I would have needed between six and eight for the same coverage. Panel LED lights kind of split the difference by spreading out the LEDs but they can only spread them so far before you start getting miniature point lights instead of wide coverage. LEDs got a bad rap in the early part of the century because they didn't really work very well and they were very expensive. Today's LED lights are vastly better and are beginning to rival the old MH-T5 setups both in performance and price but they aren't quite there yet. However they excel in controllability and convenance. For my tanks they are a no-brainer because cooling can be a major issue with Metal Halides over a tank in the desert in the summertime.

 

[00W]

Lunch...

 

[00W]

When did you go to Montery Bay? Its the top aquarium I wanna visit.

That's where I grew up.
I've had that cup longer than you've been alive.

 

[00W]

I wonder if having a bare-bottom tank has something to do with it. When I found Berghia mating they were in the sand pretty far from the rocks.

I'm sorry they aren't working out, by now you should see a marked reduction in Aiptasia if they were doing their job.

I don't remember all of your fish but possibly predation when they were in the open.

Hi Tom!
It's really hard to tell.
As far as predation, I've got a coral beauty, yellow tang and picasso trigger.
Trigger sleeps all night and he'd be the only predator.
The tank was grossing me out so I changed 20 gallons, moved a few rocks around because they fell over, changed the bottom of the tank flow a bit.
I noticed a lot of debris floating on top which is really unusual for this tank due to extremely heavy surface agitation and flow.
Looks almost like dead aiptasia, like when I used to kill it manually.
Some of the rocks are really being hammered with flow and I've got a lot coming off/out of them.
Also noticed a few rocks with no aiptasia in spots, which is strange since every rock is literally covered.
I may not be seeing that much improvement yet since I have so many.
I also don't have any on the bottom acrylic, which I had tons before.
I think they are still in there I'm just being a baby and want them gone.

 

[luis angel]

;)

 

[tharbin]

Hi Tom!
It's really hard to tell.
As far as predation, I've got a coral beauty, yellow tang and picasso trigger.
Trigger sleeps all night and he'd be the only predator.
The tank was grossing me out so I changed 20 gallons, moved a few rocks around because they fell over, changed the bottom of the tank flow a bit.
I noticed a lot of debris floating on top which is really unusual for this tank due to extremely heavy surface agitation and flow.
Looks almost like dead aiptasia, like when I used to kill it manually.
Some of the rocks are really being hammered with flow and I've got a lot coming off/out of them.
Also noticed a few rocks with no aiptasia in spots, which is strange since every rock is literally covered.
I may not be seeing that much improvement yet since I have so many.
I also don't have any on the bottom acrylic, which I had tons before.
I think they are still in there I'm just being a baby and want them gone.

Hi Joel,

It sounds like they are there and working. They don't fare well in heavy flow so they will avoid the heavy flow areas but it sounds like they are getting the young ones and the ones they can reach without getting blasted across the tank.

I have a few Aiptasia on my return Loc-Line the nudis can't reach that I need to manually remove and I'm sure I will start seeing them on my gyres again any day now but my rocks are clean. I don't see any Aiptasia on them so I don't fret over the ones on the return and pumps too much. They are just automatic feeders for the nudis.

Good luck. The Trigger likely wouldn't bother with a Berghia as they are rarely out during the day. The only fish in there that might taste a Berghia is the Coral Beauty and then only if it was very hungry so I doubt predation BUT they get blown around pretty easily so be sure there are a couple of spots they can hang on to.

 

[tharbin]

;)

Hey Luis,

What you got there? Is that a gyre?

 

[luis angel]

Hey Luis,

What you got there? Is that a gyre?

One of my powerheads died a couple of days ago.

 

[00W]

Hi Joel,

It sounds like they are there and working. They don't fare well in heavy flow so they will avoid the heavy flow areas but it sounds like they are getting the young ones and the ones they can reach without getting blasted across the tank.

I have a few Aiptasia on my return Loc-Line the nudis can't reach that I need to manually remove and I'm sure I will start seeing them on my gyres again any day now but my rocks are clean. I don't see any Aiptasia on them so I don't fret over the ones on the return and pumps too much. They are just automatic feeders for the nudis.

Good luck. The Trigger likely wouldn't bother with a Berghia as they are rarely out during the day. The only fish in there that might taste a Berghia is the Coral Beauty and then only if it was very hungry so I doubt predation BUT they get blown around pretty easily so be sure there are a couple of spots they hang on to.

Thanks Tom!
Should I stop the high flow for a bit?
I've got some badly covered rocks for them to lunch on.
And yes, doubtful trigger would bother them much, especially since he sleeps very well.

 

[luis angel]

I'm thinking of moving one of my Nero 3 to the back wall like the other one and putting the two facing each other.

 

[00W]

Hi Joel,

It sounds like they are there and working. They don't fare well in heavy flow so they will avoid the heavy flow areas but it sounds like they are getting the young ones and the ones they can reach without getting blasted across the tank.

I have a few Aiptasia on my return Loc-Line the nudis can't reach that I need to manually remove and I'm sure I will start seeing them on my gyres again any day now but my rocks are clean. I don't see any Aiptasia on them so I don't fret over the ones on the return and pumps too much. They are just automatic feeders for the nudis.

Good luck. The Trigger likely wouldn't bother with a Berghia as they are rarely out during the day. The only fish in there that might taste a Berghia is the Coral Beauty and then only if it was very hungry so I doubt predation BUT they get blown around pretty easily so be sure there are a couple of spots they can hang on to.

Was actually thinking of killing all flow just on one side for a bit, especially since surface jebao is literally covered in Aiptasia.
I'm still wondering if that isn't how they get transported around the tank, free ride through the water...

 

[WalkerLovesTheOcean]

Thanks Tom!
Should I stop the high flow for a bit?
I've got some badly covered rocks for them to lunch on.
And yes, doubtful trigger would bother them much, especially since he sleeps very well.

That's what I would do, Joel! You may be surprised. Just make sure that your corals will do fine with lower flow!

 

[cdemoss01]

That's where I grew up.
I've had that cup longer than you've been alive.

I want one! Is this image as good as it is in real life?