100% coral reef mortality

[TheScientificReefer]

This is correct

I would like to see some solutions for reducing acidification in the reef areas (perhaps large macro algae farms) that don't come from propagandists flying around on private jets telling me to eat bugs to change the weather

As far as heat waves in the currents killing corals, this has been happening for millions of years - the planet has seen much warmer climates.

Its waaaay more naunced than that. The Great Barrier Reef isnt bounced back, its more like when you get cut and now you have a scab, not healed but not exactly 100% either. COT Stars thrive in warmer waters, Corals which may be growing are still in a more delicate state. @Lebowski_ is right aswell with the diversity being impacted. Animals can only maintain homeostasis for so long in this new enviroment were headed for, you know?

I do think however and some research shows, that some corals are somewhat adapting to these higher temps at least in the GBR. They're developing some type of resistance. Long term corals should continue to exist, but not to the extent or diversity we see today. Not by far
We cant be happy with SOME corals still existing, the diminished species that make it through.. They have to thrive

 

[HomebroodExotics]

Some corals can survive temperature swings up to 104*.

I’m sincerely asking if any are native to that area.

Which ones? Probably not, because they are dead.

 

[bobyboy]

Water temps hitting 90 degrees in some areas... it's high all around though.

Edit: 93+ according to the article...

It got upto over 100* setting records!

South Florida waters hit hot tub level and may have set world record for warmest seawater

The water temperature on the tip of Florida hit hot tub levels, exceeding 100 degrees (37.8 degrees Celsius) two days in a row, which meteorologists say could potentially be the hottest seawater ever measured.

apnews.com

 

[D E N I N O]

Let's be honest about this as well.

If anyone here truly cared about climate change we would not be buying rocks and fish that have been flown around the world and ripped out of a wild reef.

 

[HomebroodExotics]

Let's be honest about this as well.

If anyone here truly cared about climate change we would not be buying rocks and fish that have been flown around the world and ripped out of a wild reef.

Speak for yourself

 

[merkmerk73]

Let's be honest about this as well.

If anyone here truly cared about climate change we would not be buying rocks and fish that have been flown around the world and ripped out of a wild reef.

Nothing any of us do will matter because the two biggest polluters aren't going to stop pumping CO2 and anything else into the oceans - and that's without even talking about all the raw sewage and garbage they spew into the environment (india, china)

But folks can feel free to bootlick the regime that'll keep flying around and eating kobe lobster and whatever else

 

[Ray Kallaher]

I wonder what’s causing this?

Ever see the movie The Day After Tomorrow?

 

[Doctorgori]

That’s interesting. I would hope that facilities trying to reintroduce captive coral to the ocean would be smart enough to develop coral that can withstand the change they see in the ocean. Maybe raise the coral in tanks that temps do reach the 90s at times? It would be an interesting experiment if anything else.

I’m on record here (many times) that the off touted “stability is the key” is a misplaced idiom/logic IME, I don’t think temperature belongs in that discussion; to a point that is….in other words, I see no logic in maintaining a absolute spot on temp in the tank, and I’ve never seen any ill effects of a few degree daily temp swing (room temps) This is even if the ocean and reefs are relatively sable… IMO anything that friggin sensitive wudda died out zillions of years ago

This is correct

I would like to see some solutions for reducing acidification in the reef areas (perhaps large macro algae farms) that don't come from propagandists flying around on private jets telling me to eat bugs to change the weather

As far as heat waves in the currents killing corals, this has been happening for millions of years - the planet has seen much warmer climates.

The corals had thousands of years to adjust, this time its a “Younger Dryess” thing all over again, and the last time the planet did this abrupt temperature change it didn’t go too well for the wooly critters, and saber tooth stuff

Please do not turn this political. Posts have been removed including those that quoted political posts. Please just report posts that violate the TOS.

I’m trying your honor, but Congress just held hearing today discussing the possibility of intelligent life outside of this planet. I’m pretty certain we need to keep looking cuz it definetley don’t exist here on Earth. Heck we elect people that believe “Space lasers” cause forest fires (not joking)

Let's be honest about this as well.

If anyone here truly cared about climate change we would not be buying rocks and fish that have been flown around the world and ripped out of a wild reef.

I hope the illuminati masters that run R2R let this post pass, but inbetween the right (“De-listers”) that wanna remove ALL protections and the left “Do-Gooders” that won’t let us even keep native corals, here we are waiting for a mass extinction event…. Oddly enough if it were not for Kings loving to hunt and domestication, Europe would be devoid of all large mammals after 1000yrs of wars and famine. As it is Aurochs, Tarpan and Dromedary only exist in domestic forms … I don’t see the logic in every law, especially ones that could help hobbyist save Elkhorn and staghorns from total extinction ….

 

[Alexraptor]

Which ones? Probably not, because they are dead.

From first hand experience I can say that some favias can survive 104+. Had an incident over a decade ago, where the aquarium room radiator failed, and heated everything in the room well beyond that, air temperature was over 122 when I mad the discovery!

But my favia survived, even though my monties were completely eradicated.

 

[Doctorgori]

I saw something interesting on youtube where they found hardy corals in the canals around Miami, anyone got more info?

Also does anyone know of any university or research facility keeping/breeding Atlantic hard corals?

 

[QuickrdenU]

I’m on record here (many times) that the off touted “stability is the key” is a misplaced idiom/logic IME, I don’t think temperature belongs in that discussion; to a point that is….in other words, I see no logic in maintaining a absolute spot on temp in the tank, and I’ve never seen any ill effects of a few degree daily temp swing (room temps) This is even if the ocean and reefs are relatively sable… IMO anything that friggin sensitive wudda died out zillions of years ago



The corals had thousands of years to adjust, this time its a “Younger Dryess” thing all over again, and the last time the planet did this abrupt temperature change it didn’t go too well for the wooly critters, and saber tooth stuff

I’m trying your honor, but Congress just held hearing today discussing the possibility of intelligent life outside of this planet. I’m pretty certain we need to keep looking cuz it definetley don’t exist here on Earth. Heck we elect people that believe “Space lasers” cause forest fires (not joking)


I hope the illuminati masters that run R2R let this post pass, but inbetween the right (“De-listers”) that wanna remove ALL protections and the left “Do-Gooders” that won’t let us even keep native corals, here we are waiting for a mass extinction event…. Oddly enough if it were not for Kings loving to hunt and domestication, Europe would be devoid of all large mammals after 1000yrs of wars and famine. As it is Aurochs, Tarpan and Dromedary only exist in domestic forms … I don’t see the logic in every law, especially ones that could help hobbyist save Elkhorn and staghorns from total extinction ….

The government readily admits to using DEW’s. So, you might wanna walk that back. And there is much proof of it.

 

[TheScientificReefer]

Big misnomer I keep seeing people say, corals survived this or that. Not every coral or other animal survives through extinction events we lose a huge chunk every time. If we can prevent another mass extinction especially one that we help cause then thats the correct course of action. Are we okay with favias surviving the 100 degree waters? and losing our montis?

 

[The_Paradox]

Big misnomer

That’s a misnomer. Misconception

 

[Sump Crab]

It got upto over 100* setting records!

South Florida waters hit hot tub level and may have set world record for warmest seawater

The water temperature on the tip of Florida hit hot tub levels, exceeding 100 degrees (37.8 degrees Celsius) two days in a row, which meteorologists say could potentially be the hottest seawater ever measured.

apnews.com

My buddy is in the keys fishing right now and he is getting 89 degrees in the Atlantic. Highest temp he has seen was 93 in the stagnant, shallow marina.

 

[TheScientificReefer]

That’s a misnomer. Misconception

What they said lol

 

[A_Blind_Reefer]

The great barrier reef went through the same thing a few years ago, and now it's at record coral cover.

These animals have been around for millions of years, they will bounce back.

Like dinosaurs?! I’m ready for Jurassic Park live ha

 

[willy69]

From CBS News.

(right now no comment outta respect to the TOS) …but suffice to say there are a hulluva lotta “protected” dead frags now littering the bottom of the Florida Keys

edited

I’ll be there next week and I’ll let you know! I’m pretty confident that the news is overblowing the situation.

 

[Doctorgori]

The government readily admits to using DEW’s. So, you might wanna walk that back. And there is much proof of it.

DEW’s? heck they may even have “UAP’s” FAIK (see hearings held on Wed)
Anyway, blaming space lasers for causing forest fires is Akin to blaming every heat wave on cows and buses. I do see both sides of a argument…..

so Pardon any hint at political frustrations…. might be safer to admit I do honestly wish science ruled the day in this emergency

Still asking, has anyone seen the youtube vid on the canal corals? Reason I’m asking is those would be perfect for CB specimens if laws would allow collection and propagation. Just thinking some commercial exploitation at this point might be a good thing.
Any decent color morphs of Atlantic Stony corals? I have seen some colorful carribean scoly type corals, whatever they actual are.

 

[Doctorgori]

I’ll be there next week and I’ll let you know! I’m pretty confident that the news is overblowing the situation.

can you take underwater pics ?

 

[Ordovician_Reef]

This is correct

I would like to see some solutions for reducing acidification in the reef areas (perhaps large macro algae farms) that don't come from propagandists flying around on private jets telling me to eat bugs to change the weather

As far as heat waves in the currents killing corals, this has been happening for millions of years - the planet has seen much warmer climates.

That is true, many times. We are actually pretty cold geologically speaking. But it's the rapidity with which it is happening that will get the corals.