40 breeder stocking list

[TheShrimpNibbler]

If he adds it last, it should be fine

That is what I thought. I added the dottyback after the firefish. It made no difference. It only took three days before the dottyback did that.

So there shouldn’t be too much aggression as long as I add them at the same time correct? Or do you recommend a pair or trio of flashers instead of a flasher and Christmas?

If you mean a male and female pair of flashers, I would not recommend that. Two different flashers would be ok. There shouldn’t be much aggression as long as they are added together and you watch closely.
Also, a flame back is not the same thing as a flame angel.

 

[NeonRabbit221B]

NO!! Please don’t get a neon dottyback. They are horrible creatures, and their sole intent is to cause pain and suffering. If you have to have one though, don’t get a dart fish. I made that mistake...

I know he is and while I have him separated I have debated returning him but he is so pretty. He kills anything new I add to the tank though.

My coral angel beauty hasn't nipped (or observed nipping at) any of my corals... That being said, I might have just lucked out or havn't seen him do it.

 

[Is this the LFS]

That is what I thought. I added the dottyback after the firefish. It made no difference. It only took three days before the dottyback did that.

If you mean a male and female pair of flashers, I would not recommend that. Two different flashers would be ok. There shouldn’t be much aggression as long as they are added together and you watch closely.
Also, a flame back is not the same thing as a flame angel.

Why would that not be okay? As long as it is two females to one male wouldn’t that be okay? I thought you should not have two males of the same species of wrasse

 

[Westoncase]

If he adds it last, it should be fine

Idk those dudes can be nasty.

 

[nereefpat]

Why would that not be okay? As long as it is two females to one male wouldn’t that be okay? I thought you should not have two males of the same species of wrasse

They all turn male eventually.

 

[Is this the LFS]

They all turn male eventually.

I thought they were like clowns where instead of turning to a dominate female if they are the biggest or the only one, they turn to a dominate male

 

[nereefpat]

'Pairing' Wrasses: That's Not How Any of this Works!

'Pairing' Wrasses: That's Not How Any of this Works! It is something I read often: “Where can I buy a female for my male ____ wrasse?” Or: “I want to buy another ____ wrasse and pair them up!” Wait! Time out for a minute! First, we really need some understanding of how wrasses interact and...

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[Is this the LFS]

'Pairing' Wrasses: That's Not How Any of this Works!

'Pairing' Wrasses: That's Not How Any of this Works! It is something I read often: “Where can I buy a female for my male ____ wrasse?” Or: “I want to buy another ____ wrasse and pair them up!” Wait! Time out for a minute! First, we really need some understanding of how wrasses interact and...

www.reef2reef.com

Would a radiant and a flame wrasse or a flasher wrasse work? Or a radiant and a Christmas?

 

[nereefpat]

Radiant, as long as it's H. iridis, would probably be okay if you have sand. It's on the small side though.

Flame wrasse needs more room. Pretty fish though. For fairies, I would do a lubbock or yellow fin.

Christmas is another option, like Radiant. Make sure it's H. claudia, as there are a few wrasses with that common name.

I wouldn't risk two Halichoeres (radiant and christmas) in a 40 breeder though. Pick one, and add a small fairy. Hopefully that makes sense.

 

[Is this the LFS]

Radiant, as long as it's H. iridis, would probably be okay if you have sand. It's on the small side though.

Flame wrasse needs more room. Pretty fish though. For fairies, I would do a lubbock or yellow fin.

Christmas is another option, like Radiant. Make sure it's H. claudia, as there are a few wrasses with that common name.

I wouldn't risk two Halichoeres (radiant and christmas) in a 40 breeder though. Pick one, and add a small fairy. Hopefully that makes sense.

Thanks so much for your help. Last questions. The first is if I have plenty of live rock and a quality oversized skimmer do I even need a hob filter to put bio media in? I understand I might need to run carbon, but is there a need to run bio media? Lastly, if I go with a radiant or Christmas, could I add a flasher instead of a fairy? I like them a little more than the small fairy’s

 

[nereefpat]

That's a bit of a philosophical question. I don't think most folks run filters, in the traditional sense. With enough rock, you shouldn't need bio media, if I am understanding you correctly. Lots of folks do use carbon. It's a good safeguard.

40 breeder is probably okay for the common flashers, like carpenter's and mccosker's. I'm far from a flasher wrasse expert, however.

 

[TheShrimpNibbler]

Thanks so much for your help. Last questions. The first is if I have plenty of live rock and a quality oversized skimmer do I even need a hob filter to put bio media in? I understand I might need to run carbon, but is there a need to run bio media? Lastly, if I go with a radiant or Christmas, could I add a flasher instead of a fairy? I like them a little more than the small fairy’s

I flasher should be just fine. The only one I wouldn’t recommend for your tank is an eight line flasher.

 

[Is this the LFS]

I flasher should be just fine. The only one I wouldn’t recommend for your tank is an eight line flasher.

But what I’m asking is they will be fine with a radiant or Christmas wrasse right?

 

[TheShrimpNibbler]

But what I’m asking is they will be fine with a radiant or Christmas wrasse right?

Yes, a flasher should be fine with either of those two.