Chris2222000
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Wow cant wait for an update! That was a ballsy move lol.
A PPE Experiment (with pics)
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ficklefins
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Day 3:
Sorry for missing a day but I was running late and didn't get a chance to take pics. When I got back home today the eggcrate sitting between the polyps had floated away so I had to do some serious gluing to try and keep it in place (hence the superglue explosions on the sides).
Overall, not much has changed. It is looking a bit more closed up then the days before but it still seems to be holding on... for now. I think by the end of this week I will know pretty well if this was a make or break experiment.
Sorry for missing a day but I was running late and didn't get a chance to take pics. When I got back home today the eggcrate sitting between the polyps had floated away so I had to do some serious gluing to try and keep it in place (hence the superglue explosions on the sides).
Overall, not much has changed. It is looking a bit more closed up then the days before but it still seems to be holding on... for now. I think by the end of this week I will know pretty well if this was a make or break experiment.
danferd2002
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Very interesting thread, i cant wait to see how it goes. This idea might not be very feasible, but here goes. Why not after cutting in half try to break the disk or plug they are on in half as well, that way they get better water flow all around, and arent healing right up against something.
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ficklefins
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Day 4:
No changes what so ever in the appearance of my PPE. I will keep you guys updated no matter what the outcome.
I think this is a pretty good idea and may be worth a try on the next PE I choose to experiment on (can't do it on my PPE I only have one polyp left :D ).
No changes what so ever in the appearance of my PPE. I will keep you guys updated no matter what the outcome.
I think this is a pretty good idea and may be worth a try on the next PE I choose to experiment on (can't do it on my PPE I only have one polyp left :D ).
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ficklefins
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Nice thinking. I will get to that right now.
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Day 4:
I removed the eggcrate yesterday and I really didn't like the way things were looking. Everything seemed pretty much gone; however, today the one side looks like it is doing much better. Then there is the other side, which looks like it could wither away within a day or two. I'm hoping that it is just shedding the outer layer because of stress, but it doesn't look good.
I removed the eggcrate yesterday and I really didn't like the way things were looking. Everything seemed pretty much gone; however, today the one side looks like it is doing much better. Then there is the other side, which looks like it could wither away within a day or two. I'm hoping that it is just shedding the outer layer because of stress, but it doesn't look good.
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ficklefins
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LOL! Yeah Rocko the polyp that doesn't look so good is yours. Keep your fingers crossed :D
Come on baby, you can do it!
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ficklefins
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Day 5:
Bad news Bob, it looks like your half didn't make it :wave: :angel4: . But the good news is that your backup polyp looks like it will hold on for the ride, at least for now.
Bad news Bob, it looks like your half didn't make it :wave: :angel4: . But the good news is that your backup polyp looks like it will hold on for the ride, at least for now.
surfn
I bleed orange and maroon
i have another experiment for you.
i wonder what happens if you take a syringe, (VERY small gauge), and draw up a very small amount of liquid/zoanthelle from one zoa, and inject it into the polyp of another zoa.
think they'll hybridize? nothing will happen? or will the polyp die?
i'm tempted to try this out just to satisfy my curiousity.
i wonder what happens if you take a syringe, (VERY small gauge), and draw up a very small amount of liquid/zoanthelle from one zoa, and inject it into the polyp of another zoa.
think they'll hybridize? nothing will happen? or will the polyp die?
i'm tempted to try this out just to satisfy my curiousity.
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ficklefins
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That would be a pretty interesting experiment. How about this for a twist. What if you were to subject the polyp to bleaching, aka loosing their zoanthelle, then inject them with a substitute.
I remember reading something somewhere about clams and how they influence the color of captive raised maximas by blending up another maximas flesh and introducing it to the water column. This could be a total brain fart, so don't hold me on this.
surfn
I bleed orange and maroon
i'm not sure about the bleaching part, as it really stresses the zoas out IMO...but worth a shot.
the clam thing brings up an interesting point, grinding up an entire zoa polyp to try and obtain the zoanthelle would probably be more effective than just trying to aspirate it with a needle. it may also have a greater chance of freeing up some DNA in hopes of spuring some sort of mutation if the host cells take up the DNA from the grinded up zoa.
its a long shot, but would be fun to try. lol
Oh well, ones better than none!;)
J. Montgomery
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The problem I see with trying to frag a zoa by slicing it in half is that the two zoa halves will likely expend a lot of energy healing that it could otherwise be using to grow and spread.
Zoas multiply much quicker than an anemone would normally. Where as cutting an anemone in half will give you more clones in the long run, I think that cutting zoas will give you less polyps in the long run.
Zoas multiply much quicker than an anemone would normally. Where as cutting an anemone in half will give you more clones in the long run, I think that cutting zoas will give you less polyps in the long run.
J. Montgomery
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What would you want to achieve through this experiment?
Chris2222000
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I think he most likely would be trying to get a hybrid zoa polyp to form, with the possibility of it attaining a different coloration than it had before, do to the foreign zooxanthellae.
-Chris
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