If you can afford it, MP10. I have one in my 13.5 gallon (completely unnecessary) but I love it & wouldn’t have it any other way. I keep a variety of corals & I love the different flow patterns, app, & Quiet Drive!
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I really like the idea of having the Neros on the back wall but I’m not so sure about putting the magnets in my overflow. Can anyone confirm if they are submersible or at least resistant to (salt)water?
@authentic said the manufacturer states they are submersible
Nero 5 FULLY submersible
duh its a pump but is the "dryside" magnet submersible too? my tank has a coast to coast full height overflow and i want to mount the pump on my back wall which would require the dryside to be wet. any issues?www.reef2reef.com
Are you using Mobius or eco smart live with your vortechs? Ai and ecotech are both a part of the same company so Mobius and myAI are really similar in my experience. Both are Bluetooth based and responsive.I own two Vortechs and I am probably going to end up buying/replacing with Neros. The Ecotech app is horrible... it rarely connects on the first attempt, it can be confusing, and lately the "upload" to the pumps isn't working anymore. In addition not only do you have to buy the two Vortechs but you also have to buy their little wifi unit. I also don't agree that the quality is anything great... right out of the box one of my two units clearly has a short in a wire and I have to keep the cable just so-so in order to keep one of the two units powered. I don't really care about the motor in/out of water argument. I had powerheads in water for over ten years, it's not like that isn't the 90%+ configuration that most use.
On the flip side, I have AI lights and I love the fact that their app is incredibly nice and easy to use, you can modify things in realtime without a clunky "upload," and the lights are always on the network. If the Nero works the same in the app I'm sure I will be very happy. I'll come back and let you know what i think of the Neros after I receive them.
I’m in the same boat, I’ve got a 20 cube and can’t decide on what to get? Nero or Mp10? What did you end up going with?I have gone through the same internal debate for my Waterbox 20 cube build (still haven't set it up yet) and decided on the Nero 3 over the MP10. While I do like the wire/motor out of the water, I don't feel that justifies the price point. I will be running an AI Prime 16HD and like the idea of being able to control light and flow from just one app. I am hoping to mount the Nero on the back/false wall because I don't want to see it on the side of the tank (remains to be seen if this will be a good spot or not). Good luck with your decision!
I went with the Nero3 but still don't have water in the tank. I did test it out for a few minutes in my wife's 20L freshwater tank and at 100% steady flow, it was something like those cichlids had never before experienced! Plenty of flow across 24" of tank. I placed it about half way up the glass and pointed it up a bit. Lots of surface agitation and the fake plants looked like they were in a Cat 1 hurricane. Looking forward to see how it moves the water in the cube.I’m in the same boat, I’ve got a 20 cube and can’t decide on what to get? Nero or Mp10? What did you end up going with?
I’ve went with the Nero 3 on my waterbox 20 and WOW. I’ve got 2 Nero 5’s on a 6 foot tank and that’s all. Some serious water movement. The water movement with the Nero 3 is incredible. I’m going to buy one more because I want to do SPS. So I get two pumps for the price of one Mp10.I have gone through the same internal debate for my Waterbox 20 cube build (still haven't set it up yet) and decided on the Nero 3 over the MP10. While I do like the wire/motor out of the water, I don't feel that justifies the price point. I will be running an AI Prime 16HD and like the idea of being able to control light and flow from just one app. I am hoping to mount the Nero on the back/false wall because I don't want to see it on the side of the tank (remains to be seen if this will be a good spot or not). Good luck with your decision!
I've been looking at both of these as well. On Vortech's website, they have a flow calculator. When putting my tank (14G) into it, the reccomended flow was well out of the MP10's optimal zone. It's too powerful for my small tank. FOr that reason I'm leaning toward and Nero 3.
VorTech Flow Calculator - EcoTech Marine
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