What additives are you using alkalinity could be hiding in something.
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What additives are you using alkalinity could be hiding in something.
Could some alkalinity solution be inadvertently being dripped into your main tank from the trident system?
I never owned and don't know how a trident operate, but know that anything mechanical should be periodically checked and tuned up.
Maybe your phosphate level are creeping up and it could slow your alk consumption in your tank?
If I do nothing it’ll keep climbing. This happened before. It climbed to 11 and the tank crashed.I don’t think you have a problem with the alkalinity. Two months after your first post and your alkalinity is about 8.5? Don’t really see problem. It looks like you found the solution. Don’t chase numbers.
If the testing is accurate there are ways to lower alkalinity, which is not usual but definitely doable, there are a few ways which I am unfamiliar with but I know people can add muriatic acid to their mixed water to lower alkalinity then do a water change with this lower alk water...If I do nothing it’ll keep climbing. This happened before. It climbed to 11 and the tank crashed.
The sps are not happy. Which I’m assuming is because of whatever is happening to alk. They were doing okay for a little while but have all since browned out and stalled.Can you add some stoney coral? They might consume the excess alk for you
I Appreciate it a lot! Im just lost. Ever since I got a tropic marin pro box from Turkey I’ve had some form of alk issue. But the ICP came back perfect with the exception of iodine.I'm sorry you're having this issue. Certainly it's the opposite of what many have which is why most of us are just brainstorming.
I know your ICP test seemed to validate the Triton but wonder if a reset would still be helpfulI haven’t calibrate the trident, mostly out of fear, but the tests seem to have a logical trend IMO.
Declining nitrate boosts alk, as can slow and steady dissolution of sand.
Where is your nitrate going? If you have a robust population of denitrifying bacteria, as Randy said this process can raise alk. You might try removing some of your bio filter if you think this may be the case (bio bricks, etc, not normal tank sand and rock).nitrate is undetectable.
water change mixes to 7.3-7.5 which takes alk from 8.7 to 8.0ish.
If I do nothing it’ll keep climbing. This happened before. It climbed to 11 and the tank crashed.
It was something to do with the salt too. Back when tropic Marin had that whole thing with the turkey facility. Two water changes with that annd my alk spiked, everything died.Tanks won’t crash due solely to alk at 11 dKH.
I had 2 bags of seachem matrix and I removed them both a few weeks ago. I don’t have any film or hair algae. Just some bubble algae in a few places.I know your ICP test seemed to validate the Triton but wonder if a reset would still be helpful
Where is your nitrate going? If you have a robust population of denitrifying bacteria, as Randy said this process can raise alk. You might try removing some of your bio filter if you think this may be the case (bio bricks, etc, not normal tank sand and rock).
Do you have a lot of algae in the tank? Macro in a fuge? These could be taking up nitrate too.
This swing from 8.7 to 8.0, depending on how often it's done, could be one reason the corals aren't happy... Stating the obvious, I know.
High alk wasn't the thing they had an issue with. Alkalinity is super easy to maintain and one of the first things to learn to maintain weather its high or low, and how to adjust it appropriately. I don't understand what your trying to accomplish now, if it's lowering alk why don't you lower it?It was something to do with the salt too. Back when tropic Marin had that whole thing with the turkey facility. Two water changes with that annd my alk spiked, everything died.
the number itself didn’t crash it. But the spike from 7.3 to 11 in just 2 weeks killed everything except the lps, snails, and fish.
i’m not saying that’s what’s going on now, because I don’t use that salt anymore. I’m just saying the last time my alkalinity was climbing, it caused my tank to crash
High alk wasn't the thing they had an issue with. Alkalinity is super easy to maintain and one of the first things to learn to maintain weather its high or low, and how to adjust it appropriately. I don't understand what you’retrying to accomplish now, if it's lowering alk why don't you lower it?
Right, so use lower alkalinity water for water changes if it is truly raising on its own which is strange but I guess not impossible, this will keep your rising alkalinity from rising.never said the Salt had something to do with the alk??? I said two water changes caused something to happen (coral stressed) they stopped growing = alk spike. And since I used that salt I’ve had nothing but alk problems.
I’m not trying to lower anything. I’m trying to get it to not climb without dosing anything
Right, so use lower alkalinity water for water changes if it is truly raising on its own which is strange but I guess not impossible, this will keep your rising alkalinity from rising.
Am I still missing something?
That is strange and I've never experienced this ever, but if you have absolutely no demand and your adding something containing alkalinity I could see this happening, but even a small amount of coraline algae should be enough of a demand to keep this rising alk stable. What does your tank look like ?yes.
i do the water change and the alk goes down. in 7-14 days the alk goes back up without dosing anything. this has been the cycle since i started this thread.
8.0 > 8.7 water change > 8.0 > 8.7 water change > 8.0 > 8.7 water change > 8.0
it's happening over and over