Ammonia keeps climbing?

[TCoach]

We need to push the "no ketchup on hotdogs" movement harder!

Need to just ban the hotdogs in total! They should never be kept in tanks. ;Dead

 

[Garf]

Need to just ban the hotdogs in total! They should never be kept in tanks. ;Dead

Take your hotdog out of your tank to reduce ammonia LOL

 

[Jedi1199]

said in the voice of the emperors dark cloak.

Would that be THIS Emperor? hehehe

 

[brandon429]

In my opinion this thread remarks upon a very serious concern in the hobby, reefers just want to know if their tanks are safe


I estimate the web has five thousand threads like this one, maybe more

we get to make predictions on very tight timelines with ammonia challenges as that nh3 burns cells badly. It’s not like we get days and days to determine status, tomorrow morning really means something in the world of nh3 regulation. It’s nice to have immediate vs extended consequences when dealing with reef tank predictions, how algae will play out / how corals fare takes months to discover

but ability / inability to control ammonia? Known by ten pm tonite/after lights off (when oxygen production ceases for the photoperiod). Those fish w hit the topwater and hover there, breathing labored, gills burned by free ammonia. But if they go all nite and are evenly distributed in the morning, cannot be ammonia.

 

[TCoach]

but ability / inability to control ammonia? Known by ten pm tonite/after lights off (when oxygen production ceases for the photoperiod). Those fish w hit the topwater and hover there, breathing labored, gills burned by free ammonia. But if they go all nite and are evenly distributed in the morning, cannot be ammonia.

Since the ammonia supposedly started spiking ~10-11pm last night, the should have been surface crusing this morning, I would think. Tank definitely looks normal with normal fish activity.

 

[TCoach]

PS. still have 14 days on this initial slide.

 

[brandon429]

very pertinent clues very good to know. It’s fun to just watch it a few days, if it sticks / the reading then concern will rise. You’ll start receiving bottles of Dr Tims at your door that you didn’t even order. the Internet just knows, man :)


we haven’t allowed for any outliers in the new cycling rules. that means if we find an outlier the old rules win and the new rules should be retired for being totally bunk.

 

[brandon429]

Hey do u have any other tanks you can benchmark the slide and current tuning against

 

[TCoach]

Hey do u have any other tanks you can benchmark the slide and current tuning against

Not salt. 1 African Cichlid and 2 FW planted.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Carbon. Chemi pure or the elite. Activated charcol. Will absorb. Soak up amonias. Phosphates. Nitrates..clear your water. Ect. Doesnt do it forever so it has to be changed.
Hths
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It will not soak up ammonia- the filter and removal of waste does.
Chemipure contains a small amount of GFO which will lower NO3 and PO4 and keep it in check as well as polishing water and remove some toxins. Additionally:

• Reduces nuisance algae
• Removes dissolved organics
• Eliminates osmotic shock
• Filters out coppers, metals, odors and phenol

 

[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

I was gonna say.gfo is an even more advanced material of this but didnt want to sound even dummer i guess. Lol. Also its like a rust material. Never used gfo myself.
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[brandon429]

how are we here, can't be cliffhangering

that's a worse party foul online than catfishing, I hear. you have the makings of a thread that can either calm the nerves of the masses or totally validate concerns and if so we'd better invest in bottle bac stock

 

[TCoach]

Lights are still out, but everyone seems good. Seneye slowly dropping.

 

[brandon429]

really beautiful

hey can u run an api ammonia test as compare/do u have one

and to make sure above you added no supports, only the aquarium handled the bump of feed itself is that right

this is developing into a thread that will have a thousand folks trusting their systems much stronger as the final closing of nh3 is tracked out

 

[TCoach]

Done.

Shook both reagents for at least 30s.
Added reagent 1 and shook vial for 30s.
Added reagent 2 and shook for another 30s.
Let sit for +5min.

PS - this is from the freshwater master kit, but I don’t believe that matters. Ammonia is ammonia! :). 30 second was manual count using 1 1000, 2 1000, etc.

 

[TCoach]

Only changes:
~25% water change (~15 of 92 gallons)
changed filter sock.
Added 2 old fashioned powerheads shooting down the radius sides of my corner tank and cleared out some left over oyster/shrimp meat from over feeding that was blown out.

 

[JCM]

I seriously doubt your corals would be open and looking good (which they are from the pics) if there was an appreciable amount of ammonia in the water.

I'd only be concerned if things start looking stressed.

 

[TCoach]

I seriously doubt your corals would be open and looking good (which they are from the pics) if there was an appreciable amount of ammonia in the water.

I'd only be concerned if things start looking stressed.

I agree. Initially one of those semi-stressful events, but visual reality not matching expectations given the supposed levels. Now helping @brandon429 in his quest to understand these bad readings. :)

 

[brandon429]

I truly think this will be a helpful post to many reefers.


***hey TC on that third ammonia pic, that's green enough to cause a buying rush that's classic api panic mode result, why is that test result darker than the other two which are only minor panic mode (being able to contrast tank pics, seneye trending and API in one thread not started by a total filtration skeptic is rare gold)


99% of all our stuck ammonia cycle readers are basing 100% on the results of an api test kit, unchecked by any other kit or calibration.

 

[TCoach]

I truly think this will be a helpful post to many reefers.


***hey TC on that third ammonia pic, that's green enough to cause a buying rush that's classic api panic mode, why is that test result darker than the other two which are only minor panic mode (being able to contrast tank pics, seneye trending and API in one thread not started by a total filtration skeptic is rare gold)

I have such a hard time picturing these. 1st 2 are standing up. 3rd is laying down on desk. Due to being WFH, I have to be super careful what I photograph during work hours. Was trying to make sure no screen images at all.

So 3rd has more light as I have a window in front of my desk.