annoyed with sps colors

[loglan]

I understand twilliard. I went through the same issue with browning and no measurable nutrients. I actually fed a little more and cut my light cycle down to main lights only on for 4 hours aday and color has come back amazingly fast. Of course this is just my experience and every tank is different.

 

[Diesel]

Don't chase your PH # to much, I have about the same but I run a CaRx.
If you make your PH unstable bad things can happen.
Maybe @Randy Holmes-Farley can chime in bit on this.

 

[deerhunter06]

Don't chase your PH # to much, I have about the same but I run a CaRx.
If you make your PH unstable bad things can happen.
Maybe @Randy Holmes-Farley can chime in bit on this.

well its defintly stable just lower than I want.

 

[deerhunter06]

more cell phone pics of my sps and tank in general.

 

[Russ265]

i swear. i keep stating i will do a write up on this and never get to it.

im going to do it tonight.

no3 needs to be 2-5ppm
po4 needs to be .01-.05 ppm

feeding sometimes creates enough nitrogen and phosphorus to generate photosynthesis but it is not a golden ticket.

use sodium or potassium nitrate to dose no3. i use seachem flourish nitrogen.

if corals get below 1-2 ppm for any extended period of time you WILL have pale corals

 

[deerhunter06]

i swear. i keep stating i will do a write up on this and never get to it.

im going to do it tonight.

no3 needs to be 2-5ppm
po4 needs to be .01-.05 ppm

feeding sometimes creates enough nitrogen and phosphorus to generate photosynthesis but it is not a golden ticket.

use sodium or potassium nitrate to dose no3. i use seachem flourish nitrogen.

if corals get below 1-2 ppm for any extended period of time you WILL have pale corals

and what will happen if you go over these numbers?

 

[Russ265]

and what will happen if you go over these numbers?

Browning and overexcitement of zooxanthellae , dispelling and consumption. There isnt a golden number on "over those numbers". You can go 20 ppm nitrate and i havent seen bad effects. But there are enough articles online to find out what happens in each situation.

http://reef2reef.com/threads/help-my-sps-are-paling-and-i-dont-know-what-to-do.210035/

 

[deerhunter06]

I dunno guys ive been fighting with my sand staying clean and that's a clear sign of excess nutrients, It has gotten better now that I started running GFO,

 

[deerhunter06]

Browning and overexcitement of zooxanthellae , dispelling and consumption


http://reef2reef.com/threads/help-my-sps-are-paling-and-i-dont-know-what-to-do.210035/

so the same thing happens if you go over AND under the numbers you stated ?

 

[Russ265]

so the same thing happens if you go over AND under the numbers you stated ?

no....
brown corals are not pale

 

[twilliard]

Oh Russ we think so much alike !
Come on people please read up on zooxanthellae algae!

 

[deerhunter06]

no....
brown corals are not pale

I consider that the same thing. what do I have then, brown or pale? I would consider mine to be a pale shade of the green that they are suppose to be, but it just so happens that it's a hint of brown.

 

[Russ265]

I consider that the same thing. what do I have then, brown or pale? I would consider mine to be a pale shade of the green that they are suppose to be, but it just so happens that it's a hint of brown.

brown is a dark brown. indicating excess nutrients.

yours look ghostly sheet white. even that green is pale. no vivid colors exist. just washed out pastel stuff.

by all means... run gfo if you think it will color those corals up

 

[deerhunter06]

Oh Russ we think so much alike !
Come on people please read up on zooxanthellae algae!

except I have some of the signs of excessive nutrients brown sand, some nuisance algae, how do you explain this?

 

[deerhunter06]

brown is a dark brown. indicating excess nutrients.

yours look ghostly sheet white. even that green is pale. no vivid colors exist. just washed out pastel stuff.

by all means... run gfo if you think it will color those corals up

please don't take me out of context. im only trying to understand exactly what u mean. to say running gfo is wrong when nuisance algae is present is well uh I don't know.

 

[Russ265]

except I have some of the signs of excessive nutrients brown sand, some nuisance algae, how do you explain this?

mine is dirtier than yours.

yet my system eats nitrate and po4 like it is candy. i dose more no3 thank alk.

if you have nothing in the water column then corals cant use it.

 

[jsker]

How much flow to you have in the tank?

 

[Russ265]

please don't take me out of context. im only trying to understand exactly what u mean. to say running gfo is wrong when nuisance algae is present is well uh I don't know.

if nusiance algae is present then you have a po4 issue. however, that is a different topic. they are ALL competing for that po4.

algae is just taking it first

 

[deerhunter06]

if nusiance algae is present then you have a po4 issue. however, that is a different topic. they are ALL competing for that po4.

algae is just taking it first

Ok... so what do I need to do to get the vivid colors I want, eliminate the nuisance algae first and then dose the PO4 and no3 back up to appropriate levels?

 

[Russ265]

Ok... so what do I need to do to get the vivid colors I want, eliminate the nuisance algae first and then dose the PO4 and no3 back up to appropriate levels?

i would NOT dose po4. we really have enough due to feeding alone.
however i have witnessed nuisance algae "go away" when aligned to redfield ratio and many others on youtube have documented the same successes.

i would manually remove the nuisance algae and get nitrate to approximately 3ppm.