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[FishLvR]

I couldn’t have a room with all that blue. I like more whiter

It is not blue in person. I believe what our eyes "see" and what my gross brick of a Fold 5 phone picks up are completely different spectrums. The whites I have are Cree and are bright as the devils sun at high noon even at 5%.

 

[scooterh928]

That’s how I like it nice and bright. I’m old with crappy vision

 

[FishLvR]

One of my fire shrimp died. Not sure if it was the peroxide or just bad luck. I have two the other one seems fine. The dinos are obviously not fine. They are turning white. I'm torn to keep going and risk killing the other shrimp or stopping or lowering the dose.

 

[FishLvR]

So I was dosing 100ml twice a day. I am going to drop it down to 10ml twice a day. I guess. I doubt that is going to do crap but what the heck.

 

[FishLvR]

Macro algae has also taken a hit. Not much I can do about that. Most important thing is to get rid of these dinos. I can get more plants. Definitely backing off on the dose though.

 

[FishLvR]

@Troylee Hey did I kill my shrimp? You are like my go to H2O2 person. I was dosing a boatload. Will it still be effective with just 22mL a day? I feel like that won't help.

 

[scooterh928]

Yes when I tried peroxide before I had a shrimp die not sure if cause of that or QuinkyDink. Have you tried putting in any nitrifying bacteria for the brown stuff. I did and mine cleared but I don’t know if it was cause that or coquicidental or not.

 

[Troylee]

@Troylee Hey did I kill my shrimp? You are like my go to H2O2 person. I was dosing a boatload. Will it still be effective with just 22mL a day? I feel like that won't help.

I’m not sure…I’ve read they’re can be issues but I never experienced one… peroxide dosing has came so far in today’s reefing I’m almost lost over it lol.. I know tons of people dose crazy amounts of it for ich in fish tanks but haven’t seen any reports on shrimps in a long time.

 

[FishLvR]

Yes when I tried peroxide before I had a shrimp die not sure if cause of that or QuinkyDink. Have you tried putting in any nitrifying bacteria for the brown stuff. I did and mine cleared but I don’t know if it was cause that or coquicidental or not.

I am using mb7 and I just ordered another round of Clean.

 

[FishLvR]

@Troylee Hey did I kill my shrimp? You are like my go to H2O2 person. I was dosing a boatload. Will it still be effective with just 22mL a day? I feel like that won't help.

I’m not sure…I’ve read they’re can be issues but I never experienced one… peroxide dosing has came so far in today’s reefing I’m almost lost over it lol.. I know tons of people dose crazy amounts of it for ich in fish tanks but haven’t seen any reports on shrimps in a long time.

It could have been a one off. Who knows how old that shrimp was when I got him. I'm backing off for right now.

 

[Red_Beard]

Trying a strategy I learned in planted tanks. A sort of "excite all the algae cells into exploding" with H2O2. 100mL of H2O2 at night before lights out, then in the morning 100mL before lights on. On top of this I am dosing 20mL of MB7. Normally I would spot treat with the H2O2 but I am broadcasting now.

In the planted tank this would eradicate almost all algae's after many days. Weakening it so much that using Flourish Excel on the last few hold outs would destroy even black beard. I have already been treating the tank off and on with the H2O2 but now I am all in. Slightly concerned with the plants in the refugium. But after two days and 400mL of H2O2 they grew? Noticed the dinos turning white in some areas. Success? One will see.

Dang, that even took care of black beard? Impressive, may have to incorporate that. Good luck in your battle! I am in the trenches with you fighting some gha and turf, but at this point in the summer it is more a war of atrophy in my tank.

 

[FishLvR]

Dang, that even took care of black beard? Impressive, may have to incorporate that. Good luck in your battle! I am in the trenches with you fighting some gha and turf, but at this point in the summer it is more a war of atrophy in my tank.

Yeah. So the first trick was getting more light. It was The Petco Special, a little experiment to see if you could have an award winning tank with only things purchased from Petco. So I was stuck using only products you could buy at Petco. So I had, I think, at one point 6 Fluvals on it. No, wait, four fluvals and two T5 with ATI bulbs. Once I got that dialed in more I had to figure out my CO2. I was using the only Petco co2 option which was Fluval. Three units and I was eating those carts like candy. Then I dosed the tank with H2O2, I think over 100mL on a 29 gallon, once the BBA turned red, I triple dosed Excel which is glutaraldehyde. Then the BBA turned white and died.

The real fun? Can you have an award winning petco tank, NOPE. Not at all. Not enough choice in plants. Can you have a nice tank, yes! Was the experiment worth it, F NO! I wasted hundreds of dollars on fluval co2 and watered down garbage seachem ferts. They are not conducive to a high end tank at ALL.

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[FishLvR]

So we make windows, HOWEVER, we sort of do shower doors now too. And I was pricing out the starfire glass from my vendor. I can build a 200 + gallon tank with half inch starfire for less than $100. Most of it is tempered but they have annealed options. There used to be a online calculator that would tell you how to brace and such. I can't find that anymore. Anyone know where that calculator ran off to?

 

[Red_Beard]

Yeah. So the first trick was getting more light. It was The Petco Special, a little experiment to see if you could have an award winning tank with only things purchased from Petco. So I was stuck using only products you could buy at Petco. So I had, I think, at one point 6 Fluvals on it. No, wait, four fluvals and two T5 with ATI bulbs. Once I got that dialed in more I had to figure out my CO2. I was using the only Petco co2 option which was Fluval. Three units and I was eating those carts like candy. Then I dosed the tank with H2O2, I think over 100mL on a 29 gallon, once the BBA turned red, I triple dosed Excel which is glutaraldehyde. Then the BBA turned white and died.

The real fun? Can you have an award winning petco tank, NOPE. Not at all. Not enough choice in plants. Can you have a nice tank, yes! Was the experiment worth it, F NO! I wasted hundreds of dollars on fluval co2 and watered down garbage seachem ferts. They are not conducive to a high end tank at ALL.

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That is a good looking planted tank! I found much the same and ultimately sacked the fw and salted it. Your foliage all looked properly colored up though. I always got BBA on my older coffeefolia leaves, but it would consistently pop out a really pretty lilly like bud.

 

[FishLvR]

That is a good looking planted tank! I found much the same and ultimately sacked the fw and salted it. Your foliage all looked properly colored up though. I always got BBA on my older coffeefolia leaves, but it would consistently pop out a really pretty lilly like bud.

FW is waaaay harder than reef. Period. I see a wrinkled yellow leaf there. Ugh see that tanks hasn't been around since 9 years and I still look at photos and find issues. I have had several High Tech planted tanks over the years. I was thinking of starting up again, but meh.

 

[Red_Beard]

FW is waaaay harder than reef. Period. I see a wrinkled yellow leaf there. Ugh see that tanks hasn't been around since 9 years and I still look at photos and find issues. I have had several High Tech planted tanks over the years. I was thinking of starting up again, but meh.

Yep. Way more ongoing work for way less (objectively) reward.

 

[FishLvR]

I got my Triton OES test back. Nothing of any concern but my tank was low on many trace elements. I do add A and K to the dosing containers, but it is clear that's not enough considering my coral load is like nothing. So I plugged it all into Moonshiners and it was well over $300. So I went through my ingredient list on K and A and discovered they are only missing two elements I need. Potassium and Rubidium. So I ordered a bottle of each of those. I didn't buy them from Moonshiners though. Potassium is another company they suggest but moonshiners is calling for a HUGE dose of Rubidium which makes me think it's a bit watered down. So I ordered aqua forest version for $6 and with normal dosing should last the year, not the $46 for 3 months worth going off the shines suggested dosing. I have been dosing two drops of Iodide daily and it was actually almost normal on the test so I will drop to one drop considering the trace elements also have iodide. So I am doing a sort of hack version of moonshiners. Then after a month I'll do another test.

I do 28 gallon water changes once a week. I don't think it's helping. It is also a pain in my rear. The python helps a ton, but it's costly, and I have seen zero benefit. It's just an old school way of thinking that I am reconsidering. So I am dropping down to ten gallons a week. I can vac the whole sandbed in 10 gallons. I might, MIGHT go auto but I have a very long stretch to the laundry room and I am loathe to try to figure out the logistics. I'm excited to start 10 gallon water changes. It will save me Hundreds a year in water, salt, resins, you name it.

Refugium had a melt off period and I though it was all lost, but everything is growing, a ton. The algae on the sump glass is nice and hairy, little snails and pods, I am very pleased with this experiment. In the mornings there is a nice pearling effect to all the algae so I think lighting is good. PH has been consistent now, not dropping off at night at all. 8.2 day and night now. Pretty rad.

The dinos are still there and this other algae I can't quite figure out. But they are not overwhelming the tank. I want to scrub it off the rocks but my clown fish tries to attack me and she could fall out of the tank. I should just let her. Evil fish. So I might rig something up. So H2O2 nightly and just keep up with my nutrients. Keeping them at 10 and .03 or dang near it.

That is the state of this boring tank with nothing in it because all I do is fight algae.

 

[FishLvR]

When you are fostering kittens.

 

[Red_Beard]

I got my Triton OES test back. Nothing of any concern but my tank was low on many trace elements. I do add A and K to the dosing containers, but it is clear that's not enough considering my coral load is like nothing. So I plugged it all into Moonshiners and it was well over $300. So I went through my ingredient list on K and A and discovered they are only missing two elements I need. Potassium and Rubidium. So I ordered a bottle of each of those. I didn't buy them from Moonshiners though. Potassium is another company they suggest but moonshiners is calling for a HUGE dose of Rubidium which makes me think it's a bit watered down. So I ordered aqua forest version for $6 and with normal dosing should last the year, not the $46 for 3 months worth going off the shines suggested dosing. I have been dosing two drops of Iodide daily and it was actually almost normal on the test so I will drop to one drop considering the trace elements also have iodide. So I am doing a sort of hack version of moonshiners. Then after a month I'll do another test.

I do 28 gallon water changes once a week. I don't think it's helping. It is also a pain in my rear. The python helps a ton, but it's costly, and I have seen zero benefit. It's just an old school way of thinking that I am reconsidering. So I am dropping down to ten gallons a week. I can vac the whole sandbed in 10 gallons. I might, MIGHT go auto but I have a very long stretch to the laundry room and I am loathe to try to figure out the logistics. I'm excited to start 10 gallon water changes. It will save me Hundreds a year in water, salt, resins, you name it.

Refugium had a melt off period and I though it was all lost, but everything is growing, a ton. The algae on the sump glass is nice and hairy, little snails and pods, I am very pleased with this experiment. In the mornings there is a nice pearling effect to all the algae so I think lighting is good. PH has been consistent now, not dropping off at night at all. 8.2 day and night now. Pretty rad.

The dinos are still there and this other algae I can't quite figure out. But they are not overwhelming the tank. I want to scrub it off the rocks but my clown fish tries to attack me and she could fall out of the tank. I should just let her. Evil fish. So I might rig something up. So H2O2 nightly and just keep up with my nutrients. Keeping them at 10 and .03 or dang near it.

That is the state of this boring tank with nothing in it because all I do is fight algae.

Awesome! I have also started using a few aqua forest elements, so far so good. Seems to be what it purports to be and at a reasonable price and potency. With what you have in that tank, you could very easily only do 10 gallons every other week if that is something you would consider. My 75 went at least a year on only 2 small water-changes. Corals really took off during that timeframe too, but it was mostly softies and LPS. Now i run acro heavy and change usually 10 gallons every other week.
Cute kittens! Looks like they are gearing up to be great tank helpers too

 

[FishLvR]

I had a bunch of orders in wwc and barrier. Had to put on hold cause the dinos.