Just curious if anybody knows what Brightwell Aquatic’s uses for the Phosphate base in NeoPhos? Is it Potassium phosphate, Sodium Phosphate, Trisodium Phosphate, etc.?
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It’s a secret and they’re not telling! I think it’s been a mystery for a long time, I haven’t heard the answer. It works, I didn’t have any issues but I switched to Trisodium phosphate dibasic and mixed it so that one ml equates to 0.01ppm. So much easier than math, much more fluid and higher cost. One tiny bottle of powder should last me a very, very long time.
I expect is is sodium and maybe some potsssium phosphate. I personally don’t think the form matters much as long as it is not highly contaminated.
I used a ton of TSP on this tank. I will not use it anymore. Trying to find a cheap alternative. I do have one, but it’s not cheap, but so much better.
When I dosed a lot I observed a “cleaner type effect” in the tank. Not to mention, not even a hint of green algae or a hint of green dusting on the glass.What is wrong with TSP and what is your better alternative?
When I dosed a lot I observed a “cleaner type effect” in the tank. Not to mention, not even a hint of green algae or a hint of green dusting on the glass.
The best product I’ve ever dosed to date is Phosphorus -N. Night and day difference compared to TSP. It is so much more bioavailable to the corals and critters in the tank. On a scale of 1-10…I’d give TSP a 1 and Phosphorus-N a 10 to put it into perspective. It’s not cost effective though, and due to legal issue’s with safety ATM it’s going to be on the weak side right now. Eventually that will change. Weak as in 7.57 mL per 100/G to raise PO4 by .02 ppm. I like 1-2 mL to raise by .02 ppm.
I’m currently testing the two below and you can see their uses:
SODIUM PHOSPHATE MONOBASIC
Food Additive / Thickener / Emulsifier / Water Treatment / Magnesium Detection.
POTASSIUM PHOSPHATE DIBASIC
Fertilizer / Food Additive / Buffering Agent / Source of Phosphorus and Potassium / Mineral Supplements / Starter Cultures.
Typically I try to stay away from products that have potassium in them, but I’m gonna see if it increases my potassium level. I’m dosing quite a lot right now, so if it doesn’t increase with the amount I’m currently dosing, it will probably be safe for 90% of reefers.
When I dosed a lot I observed a “cleaner type effect” in the tank. Not to mention, not even a hint of green algae or a hint of green dusting on the glass.
The best product I’ve ever dosed to date is Phosphorus -N. Night and day difference compared to TSP. It is so much more bioavailable to the corals and critters in the tank. On a scale of 1-10…I’d give TSP a 1 and Phosphorus-N a 10 to put it into perspective. It’s not cost effective though, and due to legal issue’s with safety ATM it’s going to be on the weak side right now. Eventually that will change. Weak as in 7.57 mL per 100/G to raise PO4 by .02 ppm. I like 1-2 mL to raise by .02 ppm.
I’m currently testing the two below and you can see their uses:
SODIUM PHOSPHATE MONOBASIC
Food Additive / Thickener / Emulsifier / Water Treatment / Magnesium Detection.
POTASSIUM PHOSPHATE DIBASIC
Fertilizer / Food Additive / Buffering Agent / Source of Phosphorus and Potassium / Mineral Supplements / Starter Cultures.
Typically I try to stay away from products that have potassium in them, but I’m gonna see if it increases my potassium level. I’m dosing quite a lot right now, so if it doesn’t increase with the amount I’m currently dosing, it will probably be safe for 90% of reefers.
Completely off topic. Brightwell NeoPhos saved my tank.
My phosphates were stuck at a HARD zero. Nothing I could do would bring them up.
There’s no reason for the difference between dosing monobasic, dibasic or tribasic forms to have different effects on the tank unless the effects you report were due to impurities.
There will be a tiny pH and alk difference in dosing the different forms , but at the same aquarium pH, these are all identical.
Who make the Phosphorus -N?
@Randy Holmes-Farley something like this should work?I’ll just reiterate that I do not think that the form of phosphate dosed will matter to any reef tank, and if there are differences that are reproducible, the effect must be from undesirable impurities in some materials.
@Randy Holmes-Farley something like this should work?
I'm attempting to keep my phosphates measurable in a fight against dinos. I've got 100# of rock and 80# of sand and am up to FIFTY MLS of NeoPhos per day in order to accomplish this. Is there an easily available, affordable option?I’ll just reiterate that I do not think that the form of phosphate dosed will matter to any reef tank, and if there are differences that are reproducible, the effect must be from undesirable impurities in some materials.
I'm attempting to keep my phosphates measurable in a fight against dinos. I've got 100# of rock and 80# of sand and am up to FIFTY MLS of NeoPhos per day in order to accomplish this. Is there an easily available, affordable option?