Anyone enjoy woodworking?

[iced98lx]

Put a drywall plug in it if it's not going to show, an with brass or aluminium I always us a hand driver and not my drill or impact...

Yea all 4 broke screwing them in by hand. Worst part I didn't even feel the effort had changed when they sheared off.

 

[Mike Reef Addict]

Yea all 4 broke screwing them in by hand. Worst part I didn't even feel the effort had changed when they sheared off.

Yeah I know whay ya mean! Try using some parifin wax as a lube (tea lights) that helps mybold wood shop teacher taught me that trick.

 

[iced98lx]

Yeah I know whay ya mean! Try using some parifin wax as a lube (tea lights) that helps mybold wood shop teacher taught me that trick.

Thanks for the tip! I'm sure they whoever decided to put brass screws in that package didn't think anyone would screw them into anything other than a drywall anchor!

Going to venture out when the storm lets up and get some proper steel screws. No sense messing with one time use stuff when it's going into solid oak.

 

[Mike Reef Addict]

Thanks for the tip! I'm sure they whoever decided to put brass screws in that package didn't think anyone would screw them into anything other than a drywall anchor!

Going to venture out when the storm lets up and get some proper steel screws. No sense messing with one time use stuff when it's going into solid oak.

No problem! Probably the same storm that's headed my way. Comon spring!

 

[davocean]

Yeah I know whay ya mean! Try using some parifin wax as a lube (tea lights) that helps mybold wood shop teacher taught me that trick.

A bar of soap works too, one swipe across and they glide in super easy.

 

[Mike Reef Addict]

A bar of soap works too, one swipe across and they glide in super easy.

Lol thanks for reminding me I forgot about this one.

 

[davocean]

I found the R2R app yesterday, an I seen the thread about starting a build thread to get a header, so I decided to go take some pictures on lunch seeing that I'm at the farm today. I need to come out here when I'm off and pick out some lumber, probably going with Black Walnut

That's some neato stuff right there, I love black walnut!

 

[davocean]

Lol thanks for reminding me I forgot about this one.

I keep a chunk of Irish spring in my screw box, manly sent, but women like it too!

 

[Mike Reef Addict]

I keep a chunk of Irish spring in my screw box, manly sent, but women like it too!

lol right! We have a stack of them on my bench in my shop at the farm, we use them around the flower beds and landscape to keep the deer and rabits at bay so they don't eat everything. Betty and Nancy's house sits 1/4 mile off the road in the country not far out of town, it could be in Better Homes and gardens!

 

[ReeferBob]

Yea all 4 broke screwing them in by hand. Worst part I didn't even feel the effort had changed when they sheared off.

I don't want to assume, but you are drilling a hole first for the screws, right? For them to spin off you would have to have no hole drilled or a hole of too small a diameter. The drill bit should be the same diameter as the shank of the screw. So just the threads are cutting into wood. You could even go a bit larger than the shank. Once you get a feel for how tight they are, ream the hole out as needed. The screw should go all the way in fairly easily and the threads tightening is what holds it. Brass screws come with brass hardware. This is how it should be. Also be sure to drill all the way to around 1/2" longer than the length of the screw.

 

[iced98lx]

I don't want to assume, but you are drilling a hole first for the screws, right? For them to spin off you would have to have no hole drilled or a hole of too small a diameter. The drill bit should be the same diameter as the shank of the screw. So just the threads are cutting into wood. You could even go a bit larger than the shank. Once you get a feel for how tight they are, ream the hole out as needed. The screw should go all the way in fairly easily and the threads tightening is what holds it.

Yes, I drilled what I thought was an appropriately sized hole (shank size), snapped 2 off with no perceivable change in force while I screwed them in, then went up a size in my pre drill, leaving roughly half of the threads to catch and broke 2 more off.

Brass screws come with brass hardware. This is how it should be.

I know this is "How it should be" based on my experience but can you explain why to me? I'm curious if it's a corrosion issue or?

 

[ReeferBob]

Yes, I drilled what I thought was an appropriately sized hole (shank size), snapped 2 off with no perceivable change in force while I screwed them in, then went up a size in my pre drill, leaving roughly half of the threads to catch and broke 2 more off.



I know this is "How it should be" based on my experience but can you explain why to me? I'm curious if it's a corrosion issue or?

Drilling into Oak for sure will need a steel screw to cut the threads for brass screws. You sure you weren't using a drill to screw them in? ;) Also make sure all of the wood gets removed from the hole. Usually this just happens when you drill but bottom out the drill a few times in the hole to ensure the drilling action clears it out.

There will be some electrolysis between the dissimilar metals, but this is more a "you paid for all brass so you are getting all brass" issue.

 

[iced98lx]

Drilling into Oak for sure will need a steel screw to cut the threads for brass screws. You sure you weren't using a drill to screw them in? ;) Also make sure all of the wood gets removed from the hole. Usually this just happens when you drill but bottom out the drill a few times in the hole to ensure the drilling action clears it out.

There will be some electrolysis between the dissimilar metals, but this is more a "you paid for all brass so you are getting all brass" issue.

I wish it was as easy as using a drill. I did have some success today, I drilled what I would call oversized holes and lubed the screws after I cut threads with a steel screw. They're on the wall. Not strait now, but on the wall.

It's always something.

Thanks for all the advice and tips here!!

 

[davocean]

It's been happening a lot lately, a lot of our metal fasteners just seem cheaply made, and I agree w/ your comment they often expect drywall anchors and not studs.
This seems especially common on decorative hardware like that, and what sucks is often the srews given match the finish of the item, so you want to use those to match, but yeah, many break too easy even w/ predrilling.
The soap or wax trick does help avoid this.

 

[iced98lx]

Success. All hooks are up, feel solid, and I even got them pretty straight.

Now to touch up the green paint, calk a few things and on to the next project in the never ending list.

 

[rideit6578]

Wow some gorgeous work on this thread! I was fortunate enough to work in a school with a couple of wood lathes and I made some pens, cups, bowls and plates. Don't have any pictures of the plates but I'll post them eventually.

 

[themcnertney]

Here are the doors. Need sanded, stained and hung still. Pictures to come.

Got the initial fit up done. And although I knew it would need some more work, the first fit up is better then I thought it would be. Very happy. Next up, stain....

 

[Paul B]

Here is my platform bed without the plywood in the center and the wheels and handle. You will only see about 5" of the wood all around the mattress. I am going for industrial. It comes apart in 4 pieces so I can install it.

 

[Mike Reef Addict]

I'm glad someone commented I lost tge thread lol. My boss Marie made the table and vanity to match the small 200+ year old "medicine" cabinet. She's almost 70 and carved most of the sroll work and legs with small palm hand planes. These were once trees on the farm! Betty an I went through the wood stacks today an I got paid to look at wood need to draft up some plans for my 90g stand and hood. Going with cherry like this now we are about out of black walnut now.

 

[jsker]

Well since a lot of you are serious Craftsmen and the subject of TOOLS popped up, can I ask or see the pride or Heart of of your shops, For me It would be my table saw a Steel City Iron works Hybrid saw. I always wanted a
Unisaw then after Delta whent overseas a bunch of old delta engineers started Steel City, too bad the economy tanked and them with it. Almost forgot Who still uses Sweetheart chisels and planes?

I will get a couple of picture tomorrow