Apex Programming for Two Klir Filter Rollers

[Mike Jenkins]

I have two Klir DI-7 filter rollers that I have by-passed the factory controller and I am running directly with 2 outlets on my apex along with an apex optical sensor in my sock tray. Everything is working fine but when the optical sensor trips, both rollers roll. I would like to come up with a way to have them alternate operation. It sounds like a simple task using a virtual outlet but I can't seen to wrap my brain around how to implement it. Here is the code that I have for each of the Klir outlets currently:


Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Tray Closed Then ON
If Output RETPUMP1 = OFF Then OFF
If Output RETPUMP2 = OFF Then OFF
Defer 000:30 Then ON
When On > 000:10 Then OFF
When Off > 480:00 Then OFF

(The when statements are there to allow me to get an error message through the alarm if either the optical sensor or filter paper is stuck or if the roll is out.)

 

[ShepherdReefer]

Great question, don't know but like to know. Following.

 

[mike550]

I have two Klir DI-7 filter rollers that I have by-passed the factory controller and I am running directly with 2 outlets on my apex along with an apex optical sensor in my sock tray. Everything is working fine but when the optical sensor trips, both rollers roll. I would like to come up with a way to have them alternate operation. It sounds like a simple task using a virtual outlet but I can't seen to wrap my brain around how to implement it. Here is the code that I have for each of the Klir outlets currently:


Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Tray Closed Then ON
If Output RETPUMP1 = OFF Then OFF
If Output RETPUMP2 = OFF Then OFF
Defer 000:30 Then ON
When On > 000:10 Then OFF
When Off > 480:00 Then OFF

(The when statements are there to allow me to get an error message through the alarm if either the optical sensor or filter paper is stuck or if the roll is out.)

Do you have to have the filters alternate each time? It would be easy if you activated using DOW. Not perfect but close.

 

[SuncrestReef]

I have two Klir DI-7 filter rollers that I have by-passed the factory controller and I am running directly with 2 outlets on my apex along with an apex optical sensor in my sock tray. Everything is working fine but when the optical sensor trips, both rollers roll. I would like to come up with a way to have them alternate operation. It sounds like a simple task using a virtual outlet but I can't seen to wrap my brain around how to implement it. Here is the code that I have for each of the Klir outlets currently:


Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Tray Closed Then ON
If Output RETPUMP1 = OFF Then OFF
If Output RETPUMP2 = OFF Then OFF
Defer 000:30 Then ON
When On > 000:10 Then OFF
When Off > 480:00 Then OFF

(The when statements are there to allow me to get an error message through the alarm if either the optical sensor or filter paper is stuck or if the roll is out.)

This will probably keep me up at night thinking of a solution. If I come up with something, I'll let you know.

 

[Mike Jenkins]

Do you have to have the filters alternate each time? It would be easy if you activated using DOW. Not perfect but close.

Yes, this could work. Not the elegant solution I was hoping for, but that’s better than them both running at same time.

 

[Mike Jenkins]

This will probably keep me up at night thinking of a solution. If I come up with something, I'll let you know.

Thanks, I know the feeling. It’s been swimming around in my head now for a couple of weeks. I feel like it could be a simple VO that switches on and off each time one of them operates with a if statement in each of filter programs, but I can’t figure out how to initiate it.

 

[mike550]

@Mike Jenkins just wondering what you figured out.

 

[Mike Jenkins]

@Mike Jenkins just wondering what you figured out.

Couldn’t come up with anything. I am just letting them both run at the same time.

 

[infinite0180]

Couldn’t come up with anything. I am just letting them both run at the same time.

How long do you let your klir motors run each time? I have a single set up with my apex...

 

[DWill]

I think I would add a second optical sensor or float switch. Then run each filter off its own outlet and sensor/float. That would solve problem and add redundancy.

If you both filter off of one sensor if that sensor fails both filters are affected. Running them off there own sensor makes the independent.

That just the aviator in me. Redundancies are good.

 

[evignola]

I have two Klir DI-7 filter rollers that I have by-passed the factory controller and I am running directly with 2 outlets on my apex along with an apex optical sensor in my sock tray. Everything is working fine but when the optical sensor trips, both rollers roll. I would like to come up with a way to have them alternate operation. It sounds like a simple task using a virtual outlet but I can't seen to wrap my brain around how to implement it. Here is the code that I have for each of the Klir outlets currently:


Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Tray Closed Then ON
If Output RETPUMP1 = OFF Then OFF
If Output RETPUMP2 = OFF Then OFF
Defer 000:30 Then ON
When On > 000:10 Then OFF
When Off > 480:00 Then OFF

(The when statements are there to allow me to get an error message through the alarm if either the optical sensor or filter paper is stuck or if the roll is out.)

How did you by-passed the factory controller?

 

[sdreef]

There is probably a more elegant programming solution, but if each roller is running through an apex outlet, you could consider setting the outlets to be on at alternating times using the time function. For example, roller one could be on from midnight to noon. The second filter roll could be on from noon to midnight.

This would allow you to extend the life of the filter roll paper. Depending on the time interval you select, you would potentially need to adjust to alarm code to notify you when the roller is jammed. Just one possible solution to allow you to only run one roller at a time using a single optical sensor.

 

[wotis11]

I know this is an old thread but if the water level gets high enough to activate the optical sensor the fleece in both Klir roller would have to be plugged and both would need to advance. So I don’t understand what the benefit would be of having only one advance at a time

 

[mpoletiek]

Don't mean to zombie, but I'm looking for some instructions on setting up 2 klir 7s to my apex when I came across this thread.

The pseudo logic for this problem would be something like.

Toggle=false
If sensor=true
If Toggle == false
Toggle = true
Run Klir1
Else
Toggle = false
Run Klir2