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Can anyone help me identify these white spiney growths on a coral skeleton that I pulled out of my tank? I do have some vermetid snails that I am battling right now but these are tiny and look nothing like them. They are not tubes just hard white spikes.

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My guess would be tiny worms that make a calcium tube. Use a magnifying lens or macro setting on a cell phone to look at them.
They actually do look like some type of tube. I also have them on some rock in my tank right now as well. I don't want them taking over. Any idea what kind of worms?
 

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They actually do look like some type of tube. I also have them on some rock in my tank right now as well. I don't want them taking over. Any idea what kind of worms?
I asked this question in one of my Facebook groups and we have come to the conclusion that these are hydroides elegans. In other words, my worst nightmare. They are on one of my base rocks so I can't remove the rock to clean them off. Thank you for trying to help!
 

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I asked this question in one of my Facebook groups and we have come to the conclusion that these are hydroides elegans. In other words, my worst nightmare. They are on one of my base rocks so I can't remove the rock to clean them off. Thank you for trying to help!
They are not hydroids, hydroids don't make a hard tube or spike, they are soft bodied.

Maybe @ISpeakForTheSeas would have a chance to take a look?
 

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They are not hydroids, hydroids don't make a hard tube or spike, they are soft bodied.

Maybe @ISpeakForTheSeas would have a chance to take a look?
Serpulid feather duster worms (calcium carbonate tubes) - harmless filter-feeders.

It's tough to for sure, but I think you can see one out in the pic:
 

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Serpulid feather duster worms (calcium carbonate tubes) - harmless filter-feeders.

It's tough to for sure, but I think you can see one out in the pic:
That's kind of what I was thinking, but my eyes couldn't find any of the "feathers" lol! But they reminded me of the little feather dusters I've had in my tanks.

Thanks for your help here and elsewhere!!
 
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Serpulid feather duster worms (calcium carbonate tubes) - harmless filter-feeders.

It's tough to for sure, but I think you can see one out in the pic:
The picture that you are referencing is the coral skeleton that has been out of my tank for weeks so it has been dry. I just took a small brush and brushed some of the ones currently in my tank on the rock. They brushed away easily. I can't physically touch them as my tank is 36" deep so I can't reach the bottom without scuba gear...lol. While floating around in the current one got caught on a rock and it is moving like a noodle in the current so definitely not tubes. They are maybe a centimeter long.
Serpulid feather duster worms (calcium carbonate tubes) - harmless filter-feeders.

It's tough to for sure, but I think you can see one out in the pic:
 

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The picture that you are referencing is the coral skeleton that has been out of my tank for weeks so it has been dry. I just took a small brush and brushed some of the ones currently in my tank on the rock. They brushed away easily. I can't physically touch them as my tank is 36" deep so I can't reach the bottom without scuba gear...lol. While floating around in the current one got caught on a rock and it is moving like a noodle in the current so definitely not tubes. They are maybe a centimeter long.
Looking at the video, none of the tubes I was looking at in any of the pics are moving in flow (indicating they're pretty solid), but I do see the thing flowing in the video. Between that and your comment in the first post that they're hard white spikes, I'm thinking we're looking at different stuff here.

By chance, does the noodle in your video connect on one end to a little, rock-looking tube/hole? I ask because I see some vermetid snail tubes in some of the other pics, and some vermetid mucus nets can look like similar to that.

If not, any chance you could fish some out into a bowl of saltwater for some closer-up pics under white light?
 
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Looking at the video, none of the tubes I was looking at in any of the pics are moving in flow (indicating they're pretty solid), but I do see the thing flowing in the video. Between that and your comment in the first post that they're hard white spikes, I'm thinking we're looking at different stuff here.

By chance, does the noodle in your video connect on one end to a little, rock-looking tube/hole? I ask because I see some vermetid snail tubes in some of the other pics, and some vermetid mucus nets can look like similar to that.

If not, any chance you could fish some out into a bowl of saltwater for some closer-up pics under white light?
Definitely not vermetid snail mucous net. Let me see if I can capture some with my long net tomorrow and get it into a bowl of saltwater with white light. I may try to dive in and actually feel them with my fingers to determine if they are hard in the water. I'll update tomorrow. Thank you for trying to help. I've had saltwater tanks for 5+ years and I am stumped. Haven't added anything to this tank for at least a year.
 

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I asked this question in one of my Facebook groups and we have come to the conclusion that these are hydroides elegans. In other words, my worst nightmare. They are on one of my base rocks so I can't remove the rock to clean them off. Thank you for trying to help!

Any worm that makes a calcium tube in aquaria is going to be a filter feeder and arguably harmless and beneficial. I looked up Hydroides elegans and they're serpulid worms not hydroids and considered invasive because they can clog equipment, they are also much larger than the tubes you have.


I have similar (identicle?) tube worms in many of my systems and can make a thick nest of tubes but they are also easily siphoned out. On a few occasions they have reproduced explosively initially but then run out of food and die back to a stable population. I wouldn't worry about them myself.
 
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