Best Pellets for Auto Feeder that Actually Sink?

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  1. splix

    splix Active Member

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    I've been using my apex auto feeder for a couple years now on my old tank which was larger, so I had a lot more aggressive fish. Now that I've downsized I just found a small issue with feeding while I'm away. When the AFS drops food, most of it stays on the surface without actually sinking. I'm using the 1mm sinking pellets from NLS. They do sink if they're able to break the surface tension but thats not the case coming from the AFS. They're too light weight to break the surface tension and just float. It wasnt a problem before because I had such aggressive eaters, they would gobble everything up in a few seconds from the surface. Now though, most pellets stay floating on the surface and will eventually go down the overflow.

    What are some good foods to put in the auto feeder that will actually sink below the surface so I dont have to worry about 95% of it going down the back?
    I have my pumps shut off during the feed cycle so that the overflow has no suction for a few minutes to help keep food out from going behind. As long as the food sinks below the surface it'll be fine.
     
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  2. jazzmik

    jazzmik Active Member R2R Supporter Tampa Bay Reef Keepers Build Thread Contributor

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    I have the Eheim one and use the feeder station platform that delivers the pellets under water. Could you use that with the Apex feeder? It should work if you can set the Apex unit right on it.
     
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    splix Active Member

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    I thought about something like that, but with the screen top I cant really fit it. Maybe I can figure out some type of larger feeding ring.
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    gioNVA Active Member Photo of the Month Award CAMS Member

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    although a feeding ring would be best, I've found that the Hikari Marine S pellets work best for me in this scenario. Plus it's good pellet food and all my fish love it.
     
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    You should try our TDO Chroma BOOST Small. It sinks and we have a number of customers that use it in auto-feeders. Since the food is in granulated form, it comes in a range of sizes in the package. The size range is 0.8mm – 1.4mm, so it's applicable for many reef fish. LPS corals will also consume it. Check out this aussie Scolymia eating it. The video is sped up.

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    I point a powerhead slightly at the surface where the pellets lend. This breaks the surface tension and directs the pellets away from the overflow.
     
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    +1
     
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    You have the ones like this that say "sinking" ? (They do have other types; not all are sinking.)
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    If that's what you have already, and you can't implement something like the Eheim FeedingStation, then I'd have to suggest trying an alternative like the ones suggested by @Reef Nutrition and @gioNVA.
     
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    Yes, they are labeled sinking. Not to fault NLS, they do actually sink once submerged. They're just not heavy enough to break the surface tension haha. If I go with a larger heavier pellet, they'll be too large for the fish so I cant go that way.
    I'll keep tinkering. :)
     
  12. Breadman03

    Breadman03 Well-Known Member Catskill Reef Member

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    I put a tee on my return pump intake and mounted my AFS at the top. Food drops, goes through my returns and gets rapidly dispersed throughout my tank without going down my drains. When I had my AFS over my tank, the pellets would go down the overflow within about 2-3 seconds of dispensing.
     
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    I use a feeding ring to avoid this issue. But I found ocean nutrition pellets to sink the quickest.
     
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    +1 - with the feeder station to make sure they go into the water column. They don't sink TOO fast though, which is nice.
     
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    I just have the auto feeder dumping the hikari pellets directly over my return pump in my sump (no "T"). There's enough current in the return-pump compartment that the pump quickly sucks the pellets up and shoots them into the tank. The fish seem to know when it's coming (4 times a day) because a minute or two before it happens they start gathering at the return nozzles.
     
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    Breadman03 Well-Known Member Catskill Reef Member

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    Mine is in my basement. While noise surely transmits through the water column, I've always suspected that the scent of the food makes it to the tank before any visible particles.
     
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    For what it’s worth, I have not been able to the the smallest NLS “sinking” to sink. Which is strange because a couple years ago I had no problem with it sinking easily. Even soaking with selcon or vitachem, and depositing under water half of it still comes to the surface (i feed with return off so it’s not a problem). I will be looking into some other brands to use with the auto feeder when vacation time comes around
     
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    Thanks for the tip...Never thought of this....going to move mine to the sump....Plus you dont have to look at it either.... Thanks!!!!!


     
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    When I use my auto Apex feeder when I am working I use Omega One marine pellets small they sink and fish seem to like them, They do have garlic I am not a huge fan of garlic in fish food gives them bad breath
     
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