Blonde naso

[Fishfinder]

i have a blonde naso in qt. Getting close to 2 weeks of copper. It has weird markings on its side like a bacterial infection. Probably on it’s 7th ish day of NFG. Anyone seen this? Is it bacterial? Is it a reaction to copper like hippos get? @4FordFamily and @HotRocks we’ve kinda talked him. Any more ideas?

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

i have a blonde naso in qt. Getting close to 2 weeks of copper. It has weird markings on its side like a bacterial infection. Probably on it’s 7th ish day of NFG. Anyone seen this? Is it bacterial? Is it a reaction to copper like hippos get? @4FordFamily and @HotRocks we’ve kinda talked him. Any more ideas?

Do you have a pic? Naso Tangs can develop whitish stress marks on their side.

 

[Fishfinder]

I thought I posted it sorry

 

[4FordFamily]

I’d continue NFG and copper. Not much else you can do. It takes 5-7 days for antibiotics to do a lot with marine fish, frequently.

 

[Fishfinder]

He has been through prazi. But this would be very atypical for flukes right?

 

[Fishfinder]

I just did a freshwater dip. No flukes. He’s been 10 days in copper. It has be bacterial or copper reaction

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

I just did a freshwater dip. No flukes. He’s been 10 days in copper. It has be bacterial or copper reaction

What is your copper at? How many PPM? How are you testing?

 

[Fishfinder]

It’s at 1.85-1.90 with the Hanna

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

It’s at 1.85-1.90 with the Hanna

I don’t think that’s a copper reaction at that dosage.

 

[Fishfinder]

I don’t think that’s a copper reaction at that dosage.

What are you suspecting?

 

[Fishfinder]

I have been watching him over the past few days and he seems to breathe more rapidly than the other fish

 

[Fishfinder]

Would it be helpful if I get him out of copper?

 

[Smite]

Is that close to two weeks at therapeutic levels? Do you have a separate, completely sterile QT tank to transfer to after the two week mark, that's 10'+ from your current QT?

That's the only way I'd pull him from copper. I currently have a blonde naso at the same therapeutic level in copper power. I've seen no signs of stress from it

 

[Fishfinder]

Sunday will be 13 days. If you think it’ll help I can pull him Sunday. Put him in a new tank alone with antibiotics

 

[Smite]

I know copper taxes the fish's immune system. I've also read 14 days (might be less but i recal 2 weeks) of copper is long enough if the fish can be placed in a new sterilized tank.
If wait for some of the more experienced members to chime in as well but I would think the antibiotics would work quicker if the fish was able to be pulled from the copper.

 

[Fishfinder]

@Smite thanks for the help. Hopefully 13 days is enough time.

 

[ngoodermuth]

I would pull him from copper at 14 days to a new tank and continue the antibiotic treatment alone. Copper is an immunosuppressant and makes antibiotics a little less effective. Remember, antibiotics don’t kill ALL bacteria, just knock it back enough for the immune system to take over.

If you can, a 90-minute acriflavine bath (ruby reef rally, for example) in transit to the second QT may be helpful.

Here is a good post about this specific situation:

The Bacterial Infection Predicament
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...al-Infection-Predicament.310311/&share_type=t

 

[Fishfinder]

Just an update. He got moved to a new qt today. No copper just NFG now. Didn’t eat today but that may be due to the transfer

 

[Fishfinder]

Anyone have advice? Still has the markings on him. And he’s getting thin in the belly area. Probably from not eating a lot

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Anyone have advice? Still has the markings on him. And he’s getting thin in the belly area. Probably from not eating a lot

Is he not eating a lot or not at all? FIsh are slow to react to antibiotics because they just allow the fish’s immune system to catch up.