I've had poor results (= dead fish) with ionic copper and wrasses, but better results with chelated copper, such as Coppersafe.
FWIW.
FWIW.
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Well this is pretty discouraging, didn't know wrasse were so sesntive when it comes to copper treating
It isn't always apparent. There are reports on here of people with fish who have a level of resistance to it and don't show symptoms for an extended period of time. I would assume it has ich and QT it accordingly.I won't treat with copper unless ich bescomes apparent. At which point I'll try and use other proven methods, which I will need to research more...
Is Chloroquine phosphate well tolerated by wrasses?While TTM is the preferred method of QT'ing a wrasse or any fish for that matter, I've had no problems with melanarus wrasses in Coppersafe. The container of sand is a good thing and will help him not be overly stressed while going through treatment.
Ich won't show in a melanarus wrasse and I've had them survive velvet and ich both long term without symptoms. They're very very resilient and since they borrow under the sand they are more slowly taken over by parasites so they build immunity better than nearly any other kind of fish. They also have a very thick slime coat which helps.I won't treat with copper unless ich bescomes apparent. At which point I'll try and use other proven methods, which I will need to research more...
I have had a lot of trouble with halichoeres wrasse in copper until I increased it very very very slowly and gave them time to adjust first. I killed 6/7 before doing it that way. Bringing it up over 2-3 days is suicide for them unless they're very established they handle it much better IMEWhile TTM is the preferred method of QT'ing a wrasse or any fish for that matter, I've had no problems with melanarus wrasses in Coppersafe. The container of sand is a good thing and will help him not be overly stressed while going through treatment.
CP is not well received by wrasse typically if my memory serves although I've had no experience trying.It isn't always apparent. There are reports on here of people with fish who have a level of resistance to it and don't show symptoms for an extended period of time. I would assume it has ich and QT it accordingly.
Is Chloroquine phosphate well tolerated by wrasses?
I have had a lot of trouble with halichoeres wrasse in copper until I increased it very very very slowly and gave them time to adjust first. I killed 6/7 before doing it that way. Bringing it up over 2-3 days is suicide for them unless they're very established they handle it much better IME
You won't want diluted copper levels or else it won't be effective. 1.5-2.0 is needed. As I see it I would rather dose less of a higher dose product slowly.Question. Since copper-aid is a diluted version of chelated would it be safer to use on wrasse in place of coppersafe? Im guessing 1ml of copper-aid is equal to .05ppm per 10 gallons of tank water.
I've had poor results (= dead fish) with ionic copper and wrasses, but better results with chelated copper, such as Coppersafe.
FWIW.
You won't want diluted copper levels or else it won't be effective. 1.5-2.0 is needed. As I see it I would rather dose less of a higher dose product slowly.
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