Brooklynella?

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I had 2 clowns that previously passed of what was expected to be Brooklynella. The tank has been fishless for over a month! Yesterday I got two new clowns and noticed today, what appears to be a similar white spot on the lower left jaw of my female clown. I was wondering what this may be, if it is brook or what. The clowns are acting completely normal and feeding. Pictures were hard to capture but I tried. I’m very concerned and this is very unfortunate if this is the case. I’d appreciate any feedback! Thank you.

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Going to be very hard to tell from those pics. I've found taking video, then screenshotting or exporting frames to be the best way on fish hard to photograph.

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How old is the tank? Recent parameters, did you buy them from the same source? Did you introduce them back into the same tank your old clowns were sick in or are they in qt? If it is brook, do you have formalin ready?
 
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Going to be very hard to tell from those pics. I've found taking video, then screenshotting or exporting frames to be the best way on fish hard to photograph.

Info that will help.

How old is the tank? Recent parameters, did you buy them from the same source? Did you introduce them back into the same tank your old clowns were sick in or are they in qt? If it is brook, do you have formalin ready?
Hopefully these pictures are better! I introduced them into the same tank after it had been fishless for about 6 weeks. Bought these from a different source, online. I do not have formalin on hand, where should I purchase it? The tank is about 3 months old, Recent parameters are:
Salinity: 1.026 ppm
Ammonia: 0 ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
Nitrate: about 5 ppm
pH: 8.3
Calcium: 440
Alkalinity: about 10
 

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Are there any other symptoms you are noticing? Sloughing/Shedding of skin, thick/ white ish mucus on skin, sluggishness, respiratory difficulty, loss of appetite?
No other symptoms so far, but they have only been in this tank for 2 days now. Eating very well, are constantly swimming together near the surface and in the flow of the power head, Just noticed this white area today so it is very new. They were QT before with my goby, pistol shrimp and they were all fine. Just added to display tank.
 

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No other symptoms so far, but they have only been in this tank for 2 days now. Eating very well, are constantly swimming together near the surface and in the flow of the power head, Just noticed this white area today so it is very new. They were QT before with my goby, pistol shrimp and they were all fine. Just added to display tank.
I'm staring at the pictures, but I just can't see enough detail. I know tank pics are hard to get, but those and videos are really the only visual things we have to work with.

Jay
 
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I'm staring at the pictures, but I just can't see enough detail. I know tank pics are hard to get, but those and videos are really the only visual things we have to work with.

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I apologize. Here are some new ones, these are the best i’ve been able to get unfortunately. I also have noticed the recent appearance of some very very small flatworms but i’m not sure those would have an impact on the fish.
 

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Free living worms aren't an issue.

The bubble on the chin could be Brooklynella, but I can’t be certain. You should get your quarantine ready, and stock up on formalin or ruby reef though, just to be safe.
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Free living worms aren't an issue.

The bubble on the chin could be Brooklynella, but I can’t be certain. You should get your quarantine ready, and stock up on formalin or ruby reef though, just to be safe.
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Okay thank you, when will I know whether it is brooklynella or not? Or whether I have to treat them for it? Will it be an obvious thing or a silent killer?
 

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Hard to tell from pics. If it is. . . here are symptoms, etc
I'm staring at the pictures, but I just can't see enough detail. I know tank pics are hard to get, but those and videos are really the only visual things we have to work with.

Jay
Same here.
OP= Please post in one forum. I gave some insight on a different one. Not an emergency but rather concern. People often get cheated with responses to true emergencies in this instance.
 

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This could be Ich. Swimming near the surface constantly is one of the signs. I saw the white spots around the mouth and I think I saw some on the phins. I would definitely do a fresh water dip immediately in order to remove any parasites from around the gills. If this is in your QT Tank I would start Cooper treatment after the freshwater dip.
 

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Okay thank you, when will I know whether it is brooklynella or not? Or whether I have to treat them for it? Will it be an obvious thing or a silent killer?
The lesion will get larger and/or new ones will start, and you’ll see mucus start to peel off...then Brook is more a sure thing, and you should start the treatment.
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Hard to tell from pics. If it is. . . here are symptoms, etc
At the onset, fish may scrape up against objects, rapid respiration develops, and fish often gasp for air at the surface as the gills become clogged with mucus. Very quickly the fish will become lethargic, refuse to eat, and its colors will fade. The most noticeable symptom of Brooklynella is the heavy amount of slime that is produced by a fish that has contracted this parasite. As the disease progresses, a thick whitish mucus covers the body. This will usually start at the head and spread outward across the entire body. Skin lesions appear and it is not uncommon for signs of secondary bacterial infections.
Typical treatment is a standard formalin solution is mixed with either fresh or saltwater in a separate treatment container. Initially, all fish are given a quick dip in the formalin at a higher concentration, followed by continued treatment in a prolonged bath of formalin at a lower concentration in a quarantine tank (QT). Of course, the longer the fish are exposed to the formalin treatment, the more effective it will be at eliminating this disease.
If a formalin solution is not available for immediate use, temporary relief may be provided by giving fish a FW bath or dip. Even though this treatment will not cure the disease, it can help to remove some of the parasites, as well as reduce the amount of mucus in the gills to assist with respiration problems.
Treatment is best done in a QT tank.
 
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