BRS - what's up with Sicce Syncra ADV pumps?

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    don_chuwish Valuable Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor Reef Tank 365 Partner Member 2018 Partner Member 2019

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    I'm keenly interested in a Syncra ADV return pump for AC reliability, famed Syncra quietness and the low power use. But other than Sicce's brochure I can't find much info on them. Zero reviews from the community. The ADV 5.5 seems to be out of stock everywhere and Sicce hasn't replied to my email query. Is it a product that just didn't work out?
     
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    I've had the ADV 7.0 running for about 2-3 months now. I LOVE IT! It is very powerful especially for 55w. It has WAY more push than the Reef Octo 4 I have.
     
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    Good to hear! Powerful AND quiet?
    I'm worried that the ADV 7.0 might be more flow than I want. Hard to tell from their little chart on the brochure - the 5.5 looks either perfect or barely enough. I'd rather not put in a valve to limit the return line.
     
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    As a single on a 120g? It should be fine. I have a 7.0 and a Octo 4 on a 150 both with RFG eductors. The Octo goes through a chiller and some turns though. I wish the Octo had more but two 7.0's are probably too much for my overflows.
    TexasTodd, an Oregon transplant. Go Beavs.
     
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    don_chuwish Valuable Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor Reef Tank 365 Partner Member 2018 Partner Member 2019

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    Heathen! Go Ducks! ;-)
     
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    LOL, you should get a Jaebow. :)
     
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    Thank you for asking this. I have been waiting on the 5.5 for months and have pretty much decided to go with the 7 instead. They look like great pumps that have gotten zero promotional push.
     
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    You're right, there hasn't been much out there for reviews or comments since they first came on the scene earlier this year. I'll add this to the list of possible AskBRStv videos.

    I'm thinking I could put one of these side by side to it's Sicce equivalent (Syncra Pro and HF 10.0) and test wattage draw and decibel output. :)
     
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    Great idea - also compare decibel output to some popular DC pumps like Vectra and VarioS at the same flow rate/head height.
    Do you know if the 5.5 is ever expected to be in stock?
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Any updates?
     
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    Im really curious about sicces claim that the AC powered ADV pumps have near unity power factor. Should be impossible to achieve in a conventional reluctance motor pump. I'd love to see their claim verified and hear what sort of rotor drive tech they're using to achieve such a power factor compared to the typical 0.6 to 0.7 PF we see in similar pumps from theirs and other brands' submersible ac pump lines.
     
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    ^This.

    As both an aquarist and a devout believer in physics, "near unity power factor" is up there with "reef safe ich medication".
     
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    Curious what they find. Can BRS measure the PF?

    I'll put the Kill A Watt on my ADV 7.0 to see what it's using. If it's truly only using 55w I will say it's pumping more than any pump I've ever seen for the watts.

    Just tested, reading 61.6. Still amazing power for that.
     
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    Do you have a link for near unity PF they claim?
     
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    Their website states P.F. = almost 1
     
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    Marketing claims.
    Just like when they say 100% silent.
     
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    What's the power factor??? Kill a watt reads that too... Im really curious to know just cause it seems like a weird thing for sicce to fib about for 'marketing'. I mean I don't expect many buyers are cross shopping ac pumps based on power factor lol.
     
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    As a comparison, my Waveline DC-6000 claims specs of:
    • Wattage: 48 watts at full speed (measured after adapter) 55 watts including adaptor.
    • Water Flow Rate: 6,000 Liters Max (1585 GPH)
    I run it at 64% via Apex. Just now I shut off everything else on that EB8 and power draw went down to a displayed 0.1A. Can anyone estimate the wattage?
     
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