I have 3… all wild caught… big one is ~8” and at least 25 yrs in captivity, smaller pair (separate tank from big one) are about 6”. There are 12 tangs with the big one and 3 tangs with the pair. They stay hidden!I love mine! I named him Comet. When I added my tangs I noticed he was out and about more. Do you get wild caught or CB?