Clownfish with brook?

Lil_fish13 · Jan 24, 2017

Can't tell what this is, can anyone help?

Humblefish · Jan 24, 2017

Looks very much like brook to me: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/

Lil_fish13 · Jan 24, 2017

Humblefish said:
Looks very much like brook to me: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/

Do you think it is???

Humblefish · Jan 24, 2017

Lil_fish13 said:
Do you think it is???

How long have you had him? Is it a new clown?

melypr1985 · Jan 24, 2017

I agree. It's likely brook. Brooklynella (clownfish disease)
I'd also like to know if he's new. Any other fish in the tank with him? How long has he looked like this?

Lil_fish13 · Jan 24, 2017

Humblefish said:
How long have you had him? Is it a new clown?

3 years

melypr1985 · Jan 24, 2017

Lil_fish13 said:
3 years

Alright. Anything new and wet added to the tank recently?

Lil_fish13 · Jan 24, 2017

melypr1985 said:
Alright. Anything new and wet added to the tank recently?

No nothing

melypr1985 · Jan 24, 2017

Lil_fish13 said:
No nothing

I'm sorry, but can you give us any more information to go off of? Behavioral symptoms like breathing heavy, flashing or scratching, swimming into the flow of a powerhead, lethargy, lack of appetite ect. Anything weird. I'm sticking with brook for now based on the picture alone. I have had clowns do fine for a couple weeks before showing signs of brook, but typically it shows up sooner than that. Without more info, I have to just refer you to the link I posted for treatment options.

Lil_fish13 · Jan 24, 2017

melypr1985 said:
I'm sorry, but can you give us any more information to go off of? Behavioral symptoms like breathing heavy, flashing or scratching, swimming into the flow of a powerhead, lethargy, lack of appetite ect. Anything weird. I'm sticking with brook for now based on the picture alone. I have had clowns do fine for a couple weeks before showing signs of brook, but typically it shows up sooner than that. Without more info, I have to just refer you to the link I posted for treatment options.

He wasn't showing any signs really, he ate super well, and the only thing I say was different was he hide under my anemone instead of being in it and I looked in my tank one day after school, and he was just looking super pale and was breathing super heavily, and this being my first fish illness I was super scared for him and my tank and so I took him out and put him in the QT and my lfs said to take all my fish out and put them in there so I did, and the day I saw him super ill he wouldn't even look at mysis and or pellets and even brine and he was just an eating machine, and when I examined him more in the QT tank he was super weak and breathing heavily almost looked like he was gasping for air the other fish and the other clown didn't show any signs of an illness but they aren't in the main display they are all in QT and I've been keeping it fallow for a day and I'm planning on keeping it fallow for 8 weeks, unless something else shows up, or there other treatment options

melypr1985 · Jan 24, 2017

Lil_fish13 said:
He wasn't showing any signs really, he ate super well, and the only thing I say was different was he hide under my anemone instead of being in it and I looked in my tank one day after school, and he was just looking super pale and was breathing super heavily, and this being my first fish illness I was super scared for him and my tank and so I took him out and put him in the QT and my lfs said to take all my fish out and put them in there so I did, and the day I saw him super ill he wouldn't even look at mysis and or pellets and even brine and he was just an eating machine, and when I examined him more in the QT tank he was super weak and breathing heavily almost looked like he was gasping for air the other fish and the other clown didn't show any signs of an illness but they aren't in the main display they are all in QT and I've been keeping it fallow for a day and I'm planning on keeping it fallow for 8 weeks, unless something else shows up, or there other treatment options

Now that's some good info! Brook is still the most probable here. It's not difficult to treat. You'll see in that link that you can do several things to help him last long enough for the meds to help. Even a simple freshwater dip will help him breath a little easier so he doesn't suffocate. Acriflavin (can be found in Ruby Reef Rally), Metroplex, Formalin - all helpful tools in this. I suggest treating everybody in QT the same way at the same time. It's great that you already have them in QT and plan to go fallow. Very smart!

Here is how to do the freshwater dip. It's something you can do right now to buy your clownfish some time so you can get the meds you need.
Freshwater Dip: Provides temporary relief for Brooklynella, Flukes & "Black Ich", Marine Velvet disease (Amyloodinium); possibly even Ich & Uronema marinum (both unproven). Can be used to confirm the presence of Flukes.

How To Treat - Fill a bucket with RODI water, and use a heater to match the temperature to the water the fish is coming from. Aerate the water heavily for at least 30 minutes prior to doing the dip, then discontinue aeration while performing the dip. Fish aren’t overly pH sensitive for short durations like this, but you can squirt a little tank water into the dip just before the fish goes in to help bring it up.

Place the fish in the freshwater (FW) dip and observe closely. It is not unusual for them to freak out a little at first. Also, tangs are notorious for “playing dead” during a FW dip. The important thing is to watch their gills; they should be breathing heavily at all times during the dip. If breathing slows, it’s time to exit the dip. Dip the fish for no longer than 5 minutes. Multiple dips may be done, but it’s important to give your fish a day to recuperate in-between dips.

For flukes, use a dark (preferably black) bucket so you can see if tiny white worms fall out of the fish (especially out of the gills) at around the 3-4 minute mark. The worms will settle to the bottom, so you can use a flashlight to look for them there as well.

Pros - Provides temporary relief for a wide range of diseases in a chemical free environment. Can “buy you more time” until a proper treatment can be done.

Cons/Side Effects - Not a permanent “fix” for any disease, as FW dips are not potent enough to eradicate all of the parasites/worms afflicting the fish. Some fish can have an adverse reaction to a FW dip by appearing unable to maintain their equilibrium once returned to the aquarium. If this happens, hold the fish upright (using latex, nitrile or rubber gloves), and gently glide him through the water (to get saltwater flowing through the gills again). It is also a good idea to place the fish in an acclimation box until he appears “normal”.

Lil_fish13 · Jan 30, 2017

melypr1985 said:
Now that's some good info! Brook is still the most probable here. It's not difficult to treat. You'll see in that link that you can do several things to help him last long enough for the meds to help. Even a simple freshwater dip will help him breath a little easier so he doesn't suffocate. Acriflavin (can be found in Ruby Reef Rally), Metroplex, Formalin - all helpful tools in this. I suggest treating everybody in QT the same way at the same time. It's great that you already have them in QT and plan to go fallow. Very smart!

Here is how to do the freshwater dip. It's something you can do right now to buy your clownfish some time so you can get the meds you need.
Freshwater Dip: Provides temporary relief for Brooklynella, Flukes & "Black Ich", Marine Velvet disease (Amyloodinium); possibly even Ich & Uronema marinum (both unproven). Can be used to confirm the presence of Flukes.

How To Treat - Fill a bucket with RODI water, and use a heater to match the temperature to the water the fish is coming from. Aerate the water heavily for at least 30 minutes prior to doing the dip, then discontinue aeration while performing the dip. Fish aren’t overly pH sensitive for short durations like this, but you can squirt a little tank water into the dip just before the fish goes in to help bring it up.

Place the fish in the freshwater (FW) dip and observe closely. It is not unusual for them to freak out a little at first. Also, tangs are notorious for “playing dead” during a FW dip. The important thing is to watch their gills; they should be breathing heavily at all times during the dip. If breathing slows, it’s time to exit the dip. Dip the fish for no longer than 5 minutes. Multiple dips may be done, but it’s important to give your fish a day to recuperate in-between dips.

For flukes, use a dark (preferably black) bucket so you can see if tiny white worms fall out of the fish (especially out of the gills) at around the 3-4 minute mark. The worms will settle to the bottom, so you can use a flashlight to look for them there as well.

Pros - Provides temporary relief for a wide range of diseases in a chemical free environment. Can “buy you more time” until a proper treatment can be done.

Cons/Side Effects - Not a permanent “fix” for any disease, as FW dips are not potent enough to eradicate all of the parasites/worms afflicting the fish. Some fish can have an adverse reaction to a FW dip by appearing unable to maintain their equilibrium once returned to the aquarium. If this happens, hold the fish upright (using latex, nitrile or rubber gloves), and gently glide him through the water (to get saltwater flowing through the gills again). It is also a good idea to place the fish in an acclimation box until he appears “normal”.

My clownfish woke up with this, looks like powdered sugar all over his body, I've lost 5 fish to this, a mandarin goby a Klein butterfly a fishers angelfish a clownfish, and a tail spot blenny is it velvet?

melypr1985 · Jan 30, 2017

Lil_fish13 said:
My clownfish woke up with this, looks like powdered sugar all over his body, I've lost 5 fish to this, a mandarin goby a Klein butterfly a fishers angelfish a clownfish, and a tail spot blenny is it velvet?

Brook and velvet can look very similar. Did you attempt treatment from the link provided? If so, it didn't work and that will help further diagnosis. Can you tell me what you tried to treat with so far and how?

Lil_fish13 · Jan 30, 2017

melypr1985 said:
Brook and velvet can look very similar. Did you attempt treatment from the link provided? If so, it didn't work and that will help further diagnosis. Can you tell me what you tried to treat with so far and how?

I've done copper and freshwater dip

melypr1985 · Jan 30, 2017

Lil_fish13 said:
I've done copper and freshwater dip

Sweetie, I need more info than that. The devil is in the details. What brand of copper did you use and what concentration did you keep it at and for how long? When did this copper treatment take place, after the first post? When did you do the freshwater dip? What were the results of the freshwater dip? Did he start breathing easier? Did his skin look better after?

Lil_fish13 · Jan 30, 2017

melypr1985 said:
Sweetie, I need more info than that. The devil is in the details. What brand of copper did you use and what concentration did you keep it at and for how long? When did this copper treatment take place, after the first post? When did you do the freshwater dip? What were the results of the freshwater dip? Did he start breathing easier? Did his skin look better after?

I used seachems cuppermine at 15 drops every other day for a week but the first times I dossed I used 5-10-15 drops over a course of a couple days, the only thing I notice about his skin is that it looks like it's comming off. The dots are gone but his skin isn't colorful like it used to be, he's still breathing super fast and is swimming in a low flow area of the tank at like a 65 degree angle

melypr1985 · Jan 30, 2017

Lil_fish13 said:
I used seachems cuppermine at 15 drops every other day for a week but the first times I dossed I used 5-10-15 drops over a course of a couple days, the only thing I notice about his skin is that it looks like it's comming off. The dots are gone but his skin isn't colorful like it used to be, he's still breathing super fast and is swimming in a low flow area of the tank at like a 65 degree angle

Ok. Next time you treat wtih copper make sure you have a test kit for it so you know where your copper levels are at (.5ppm) and you'll want to keep them there for 30 days straight.. The Seachem kit will work for that.

Anyway, it sounds like your clown has brook so the copper isn't likely to help him. Read this link for detailed treatment info Brooklynella (clownfish disease)

Lil_fish13 · Jan 30, 2017

melypr1985 said:
Ok. Next time you treat wtih copper make sure you have a test kit for it so you know where your copper levels are at (.5ppm) and you'll want to keep them there for 30 days straight.. The Seachem kit will work for that.

Anyway, it sounds like your clown has brook so the copper isn't likely to help him. Read this link for detailed treatment info Brooklynella (clownfish disease)

Where can I get that?