Concerning aggression or clowns being clowns?

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My gladiator pair has been peaceful and great since I got them in April, but now one is starting to grow quickly and seems like she has transitioned to female. Now she’s kind of bullying the male, not letting him in the anemone even pulling him out by the fin. She chases him into the corner and I hear splashing occasionally when water splashes from the male almost jumping at the surface. Is this normal behavior as clowns mature or a concern that she’s going to kill him? Thank you!
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normal, female will bully the male until he submits. You may notice the male turn sideways and do a little shimmy that looks like he's having a seizure in front of the female, this will indicate he has submitted and they should become more peaceful then.
 
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normal, female will bully the male until he submits. You may notice the male turn sideways and do a little shimmy that looks like he's having a seizure in front of the female, this will indicate he has submitted and they should become more peaceful then.
He does that all the time. She did a bit in the beginning back but he submits repeatedly all day to her. No clue why it’s still going
 

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He does that all the time. She did a bit in the beginning back but he submits repeatedly all day to her. No clue why it’s still going
They behave exactly the same as some of my pairs in the past. At this point I wouldnt be worried, it might get much rougher and that is still normal.

Female matured and wants to conclude it now, male looks confused and doesnt really want/know what the heck is going on.

The result is most likely gonna be some proper beating, which the male likely needs to stop the "what the heck you doing bro lets play like before" juvenile behaviour and serve the female at all times without questioning her.

Proper beating is more serious than what we see on videos, all fins nipped, liplocks, male hiding in the corner of a tank stressed out all day is the point where I would start monitoring whether they sort themselves or not - while they are mostly together and more importantly sleeping together it's all fine I think.

As far as I saw submitting is not enough to stop agression, but its a good direction and means male starts learning its role.

My impression is that both of them need to learn into their roles, male casually submitting a few times is not enough, there are other things to learn for both of them and when all the signalling and communication is perfect, they adjust to each other gradually and they will eventually calm down.

This can unfortunately take months of fighting.

(accidents might happen ofc course at any point and male could get killed, just like in human fights).
 

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