Considering a change from apex to GHL

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  1. BoomCorals

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    I have been using Neptune apex for over a year and am heavily invested in their lineup. I also have access to some reseller discounts for Neptune so I use Neptune for my service customers locally so I guess you could say I’m all Neptune lol. But I have never enjoyed the coding and custom writing to get what I want out of it. I have had to make some fairly complex code setups to get various things to do what I want and it’s caused me problems before and on occasion problems for service customers. In addition I have some pretty horrendous clutter. I have modules upon modules upon modules lol.

    So I’m considering a change. I’m trying to come up with what I need if I switched to GHL. Here is what I currently have with apex:

    Apex 2016
    2x energy bar (for a total of 3)
    2x ATK top off packages and modules
    3x DOS pump units (6 heads total)
    Breakout box
    Pm1 with temp and ph probe (for QT)
    KH monitor


    Here is what I think I’d need. But I’m guessing there are splitters and extension cables and modules I’m missing?

    KH director with slave doser
    Additional GHL doser slave unit
    2x GHL Maxi Units
    ProfiLux 4 ultimate
    2x powerbar 5.1 (for a total of 3)
    Extra Temp sensor
    Extra Ph sensor
    6 Level sensors, optical
    Replacement top off pumps since I can’t use the Neptune pmups
    For 2 extra sensor (pH + Temp) will need https://store.aquariumcomputer.com/...o=p28_plm-ph-redox-digtemp-sensor-inputs.html
    For 2 extra level sensor will need https://store.aquariumcomputer.com/en/product_info.php?info=p27_plm-4level-sensor-inputs.html
    To connect 2 level sensor on a level port need https://store.aquariumcomputer.com/...nfo=p65_splitter-cable-for-level-sensors.html (get 3)

    I have 3 dosing pumps for dosing stuff, and 3 for auto water change. I would use pumps for my two ATOs.

    I do 12000ml daily AWC. And my alk calc etc dosing is about 150ml a day.
     
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  2. Gaël

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    For your 2 extra sensor (pH + Temp) you will need https://store.aquariumcomputer.com/...o=p28_plm-ph-redox-digtemp-sensor-inputs.html
    For you 2 extra level sensor you will need https://store.aquariumcomputer.com/en/product_info.php?info=p27_plm-4level-sensor-inputs.html
    To connect 2 level sensor on a level port you need https://store.aquariumcomputer.com/...nfo=p65_splitter-cable-for-level-sensors.html (get 3)

    Or get an expansion box https://store.aquariumcomputer.com/en/product_info.php?info=p82_expansion-box-2.html
     
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    FYI The P4 have 2 free slots for expansion cards - therefore you do not need an expansion box in this case if you not plan to expand your system in the future. However if your QT is a bit away from your DT - an expansion box 2 with

    • 4 x 1-10V-interfaces
    • 2 x Universal ports for pH or redox probes (adjustable)
    • 1 x Universal port for conductivity freshwater or seawater (adjustable)
    • 1 x Port for digital temperature sensor
    • 1 x Mitras Lightbar interface
    • 2 x ProfiLux Aquatic Bus
    • 2 x Level sensor input
    • 4 x Additional expansion slots for our expansion cards.
    could be a good option and you probably do not need the extra expansion cards

    You can place the expansion box 2 up to 100 meters from your P4 using cat 6 RJ-45 cables.

    As ATO pumps you can use which pump you want and put it in a power bar outlet that is controlled by the actual level sensor.


    Sincerely Lasse
     
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    Depending on the size of your system and If you plan on using a doser 2.1 for ATO or AWC I would consider getting Maxi dosers instead far better suited to that job than the standard doser
     
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    I have 3 dosing pumps for dosing stuff, and 3 for auto water change. I would use pumps for my two ATOs.

    I do 12000ml daily AWC. And my alk calc etc dosing is about 150ml a day.
     
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    Are you using a backup battery at all?
     
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    I’d say 12000ml/day would be best suited to a Maxi doser, they are far faster and more robust than the 2.1’s. I use mine to AWC 20L a day.
     
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    I have to agree with @Mortie31 for the Maxi. @Lasse brings up a great point depending on far away the QT is then an expansion box is best and can stack easily on the AWC on your QT also. Tagging @Vinny@GHLUSA and @Marco@GHLUSA to help with the parts list :)
     
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    No. I have a generator.
     
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    Good morning. Let me get some coffee and I’ll go through your list :)
     
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    The calvary has arrived!
     
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    Following this topic, I'll be purchasing a new controller in a few months. The Neptune Trident is a very appealing idea, anything like that coming for GHL?
     
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    I shouldn't need the expansion box as my QT is right next to my main system. The entire main system is around 300 gallons of frag tanks and sump. The QT is 100 gallons of frag tank and sump.
     
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    Thanks. I just updated my original post with the "updated" list of what I think I need.
     
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    Sent PM - We'll hash it out via PM, then post the equipment list.
     
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    I'm very happy with my KH Director/SA Doser 2.1

    But I have to wonder why you would switch? There's certainly no less equipment involved (more by the looks of it). With the "tasks" that Neptune has implemented, the programming is mostly straightforward now. Is GHL programming that much easier?
     
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    That's not the same... Unless you have an enterprise grade generator wired into the building electric to provide AVR functionality...
     
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    Sorry not sure what that is? It's a whole home generator from generac.
     
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    Ah, work got busy and I haven't had a chance to reply. I have a coherent answer for you, i'll post it later tonight or tomorrow.
     
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    No rush I appreciate the insight. :)
     
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